What would you like to see kitted?

Mode One · 22 October 2009, 12:55 PM

I guess if I need a Pfalz, I can certainly go ahead and build one from Scratch (I have Tom P. 1/5th scale plans).

I never thought my comment: "Back to kitting that 1/4th scale Pfalz DIII, Fish"! was going to get Fish Man to forget about what he was REALLY thinking of kitting and do a Pfalz! Maybe there are better choices to make.

Good luck Fish man!

Fish man · 23 October 2009, 04:45 AM

My designer is a genius. Well, at least he's good with r/c. I don't disagree with anything said about the cooling issues, However it can be done. It is likely that the Pfalz will not be one of the first couple kits released so I am not placing the success or failure of my business on this one kit. I am willing to take a chance on any plane if there is a real need or want for it. I had seven request for a Pfalz DIII which is more than any other 2nd place goes to the Salmson 2A2 with 5. I think the salmson is ugly as hell but thats just my personal opinion and we will possibly produce it as a kit eventually. I think it would be a good companion to BUSA's 2 seater. I am very grateful to everyone for their "Two cents". I only wish I didn't have to wait 'till after the fist of the year to really get started. I will announce or company name, web site, and preliminary kit line up then. I hope to have kits available in May if everything goes according to plan.

Doc Modeler · 24 October 2009, 05:47 AM

Fish Man, I've been looking in off and on but haven't added any comments. The plan to produce a kit somewhere between GTM and BUSA is a good one. Whatever you decide to start with keep the outline true and please use realistic airfoils, that's my biggest gripe with BUSA. I have gathered up drawings for the Pfalz DIII the Alby DII and the Roland DVI. I'd like to see any of those in kit form. 1/4 scale my preference.
Doc

Fish man · 26 October 2009, 04:30 AM

Thanks doc, I will try to keep outlines as scale as possible. Wing rib shapes can be a problem on some aircraft. If the airfoil is not documented we will look closely at the photos and 3-views and come up with a convicing shape that will still fly well. In some instances a true scale airfoil does not provide very good flight charateristics. High undercambered wings can produce some tricky to fly planes. My seimens shuckert for example does not float on landing and must be flown almost all the way to the ground under power. I am not the greatest stick man but a good flyer can make it look easy.

Doc Modeler · 26 October 2009, 05:29 AM

I understand some airfoils may be exterme and others hard to document, that's why I used the word realistic instead of "exact". Most of the airfoils seem to perform acceptably at 1/4 scale or larger tho very high camber with a sharp leading edge as used in some applications could be tricky.
Doc

Fish man · 26 October 2009, 11:11 AM

Yep. If a foil has an under camber our model will too. I'm not going flat bottom if it is clear the original didn't have one. I will try to be close. If someone wants exact and we are not....as far as scale outline of the plane we will try to be very close. Is there not some rule or law that a model that is produced as a kit cannot be 100% scale? I always heard some companies try to change some features so they are not 100% but more like 90% accurate.

ProfLooney · 26 October 2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish man

Is there not some rule or law that a model that is produced as a kit cannot be 100% scale? I always heard some companies try to change some features so they are not 100% but more like 90% accurate.

No fish they not talking outlines. The rule is if you took plans from say from BUSA and used them for designing your own to make the framing blah blah more accurate that you must have a 10% overall change from the originals you used to design yours. this 10% is what it takes to pass their copyright on their design.

this wasnt meant to open that can of worms but answering your 100% to 90% comment

Fish man · 27 October 2009, 04:08 AM

Thanks, That clears that little mystery up! It makes much more sense. We will be working from our own stuff so no worries.

Breguet · 27 October 2009, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfLooney

In Progress 1/3 scale Sopwith Tripehound

Soon 1/2 Scale Sopwith Tripehound

Did you know that there is no evidence that they were ever called Tripehounds except in pulp fiction? The nearest I can find to someone using a nickname for the Triplane was Stan Dallas who referred to his as his tripod.

Fish man · 27 October 2009, 05:55 AM

I would like to see the 1/2 scale sopwith when done. That sounds awsome!
Has anyone heard from Dave Johnson about the 1/3 scale seimens shuckert DIII? He told me he was redesigning his 1/4 scale and making a 1/3 scale. I love(ed) my 1/4 scale. I am nearly finished with a number two. Had to build a new one after my N struts came unsoldered in flight! It wasn't pretty, I ALMOST got it under control before it went in.

I have only recieved two votes for a camel. Does it look to much like a pup for anyone to want one?