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9 August 2004, 07:01 PM
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9 August 2004, 07:14 PM
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Se5 chasing W29's over land. Be2e with early style BE2 or early2c landing gear arrangement. Well they are ww1 planes I guess. If they can be painted such as where Il2 went with theirs then maybe. Otherwise it looks like a mix of acrade style vs PC type gaming.
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10 August 2004, 02:22 AM
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Please notice that this game is totally unrelated to our card game with the same name.
I wonder why they did not do any research for the color schemes...
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10 August 2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Angiolillo@Aug 10 2004, 01:22 AM
[b] Please notice that this game is totally unrelated to our card game with the same name.
I wonder why they did not do any research for the color schemes...
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Angiolillo,
That is the very reason I found the X Box game was because I was looking for your game. I need “Watch Your Back” and it is not out yet in the US. Both my wife and 15-year-old son play with me. We love what you have done.
That was so stupid of them to change the name of their game. It was Wings of Honour first. Heck, what stopped them naming it Knights Over Europe!?!?
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10 August 2004, 03:28 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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They probably changed the name because nobody at TakeTwo or the Gathering knew the meaning of the word honour.
Have you read anything about the developer Silver Wish Games? I clicked on the link at IGN.com but nothing happened.
Hard to tell much by just three screen shots. But it looks like the aircraft cover a much earlier time period than KOE was going to. Of course in these type of games, historical accuracy doesn't matter much. The Crimson Skies crowd might enjoy it. I remember when Crimson Skies first came out that many people bought it simply because it had been so long since any flight sim had come out at all. I imagine many WW1 flight sim fans will buy Wings of War (the xbox/pc game) for the same reason.
This is what an SE5a should look like.
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10 August 2004, 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Xeidos2@Aug 10 2004, 02:28 PM
[b] They probably changed the name because nobody at TakeTwo or the Gathering knew the meaning of the word honour.
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Ouch!
Should we boycott them? Or do you think that they were in as much dark about their publisher as KOE was, they just got the better end. I mean, what if, after KOE got a release date, the KOE team found out that Wings of Dishonour was bumped for KOE? (As it should have). Aspect wouldn’t and probably couldn’t back out by that point.
Should we take our anger out on the semi sim with it’s Speed Racer Sopwith Camels and not buy it?
I got a problem; my son was watching the KOE screenies with me. He was very psyched that “Dad’s planes” was going to be a video game he could play. It’s the one place we meet eye to eye on, video games. And it is here he could enjoy them a bit more with me.
Is the Wings of War team at fault?
I will watch very closely the development of KOE. I believe very much in it and know that someday it will see the light of day. Sorry this happened to KOE.
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10 August 2004, 07:47 PM
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I do not think the development team of this product had any knowledge of what was going on between Aspect Simulations and Destineer/TakeTwo/The Gathering.
On the IGN website the Wings of War developer was listed as Silver Wish Games. I have found no information as to who these people are. I looked at the screen shots for Wings of Honour made by City Interactive and while there were many elements that looked the same in the two sets of screen shots, I'm not 100 percent sure that Wings of War is a re-packaged job of Wings with Honour. It might be, but I'm not yet sure.
I do not recommend a boycott of any kind. It won't help us at Aspect. It won't affect the decision makers at TakeTwo/The Gathering. If getting a copy of Wings of War (card game or xbox/pc) gives you a chance to have some fun with your son, do so with my blessings. Just set aside some money so that you can also play our project A when it comes out as well . KOE revised should follow a few months after that.
I thought about spelling out in great detail all the things we, Aspect Simulations, did right and all the things they, the publisher, did wrong and how the influence of TakeTwo as the parent company, and the Gathering as the distributor listed in our contract, had a big impact on what happened to KOE and the stopping ( I mean delay) of it's development ... but I decided this forum is not the place and I'm not the person to make charges against others.
It's written, "Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It's mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.
Before they changed their name and let themselves be taken over by TakeTwo, The Gathering called themselves G.O.D. which was suppose to stand for gathering of developers. When little god meets big God, it should not be much of a contest.
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11 August 2004, 12:10 AM
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[quote] Originally posted by EduardFreak@Aug 11 2004, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Angiolillo,Aug 10 2004, 01:22 AM
That is the very reason I found the X Box game was because I was looking for your game. I need “Watch Your Back” and it is not out yet in the US. Both my wife and 15-year-old son play with me. We love what you have done.
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Thanks a lot for your kind words! I am also eagerly waiting for "Watch your back!", but it has been delayed to september. Nexus is busy with a great "War of the Ring" boardgame featuring a 100 x 70 cm map, 205 plastic toy soldiers as pawns, cards, dice and all the rest. The printer is busy with reprints of "Famous Aces", that sold out in the English speaking countries in 12 days. Artists are busy with the last details of "WyB!"...
I'll be in Indianapolis 18/22 of August for the GenCon with a giant-size deck of Famous Aces. Then in NY for a week. If anybody is around...
As far as the computer game is concerned, I am happy that it came out. I'd just prefer there was no confusoon with names... And after reading the interview and all the claims of realism, I just think that even if does not matter so much to most of the customers, a little research on color schemes could help a lot to the videogame. It does not matter dso much to our card game too, but we prefer to be accurate even if we put in that more effort than it is really worth.
Bye, everybody!
Andrea
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11 August 2004, 01:53 AM
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Wings of war is already in the shops here, i just saw it yesterday.
For what i read at some videogame sites and magazines, it's not a real sim....just an arcade-based game with WW1 airplanes.
There aren't campaigns, just some not historical missions. Possibility to upgrade weapons and performances of the plane advancing in the missions (omfg).
The flight model is very unrealistic...with a Dr.I you can fly like you have an F.18, due to the will of programers to create spectacular air duels, expecially for the multiplayer arena.
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