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Red Baron is, ok for offline play, but online you are going to have to put up with alot of kiddies who will hack the game. Because it is an old 16 bit app it is very weak with regards to trainer type abuse. Memory hacking can turn an average aircraft into an f-16 so I would play it for its offline fun, but stay away from the online game part of it!

Hmm.. that just show how little he play.
I am one of the guys that runs servers in redbaron3d, we have a server ops group, were most of the guys with servers are in. We work together to prevent hackers, hackers are now a rare sight in mmp (multi player), we have secrety programs that logs and boot hackers, and other types of cheats. And when we do record a hacker, or a grifer, they are warned, if they do it again they are banned from all servers run by the ppl in the server ops group, for a periode. If they continue they will end up permanently banned as a few have become.

My impression of redbaron3d online, talking as a guy who have been flying online for a little over 2 years, its the only online game so far I have found with such a communety. We are like a big famely.

In fact there was a guy from our communety that got sick, and almost lost his home because of the medical bills, he was talking about this on WOV, one of the most common rb forums, and you know what happend, ppl donated enogh money for him to get on his feed again.

If you wanna know more about redbaron3d I suggest u visit these links, also feel free to email me on [email protected]:

http://www.wings-of-valor.net/ <-- WOV, most used redbaron forum

http://www.Jasta3.tk/ <-- My squadrons home

http://www.j3lucky13.tk <-- my site

Anyone play wings of honour multiplayer?

Salute:

RB3D is great on line also if U use one of the secure servers. Chiggy sees ghosts and hacks on every street corner and cloud of RB3D. Try the secure servers for U'rself before believing Chiggy.

[Blue Max]

Originally Posted by Trench Raider

Anyone play wings of honour multiplayer?

Red Baron Pizza version or commercial?

LOL you guys kill me. The Server Monitor Association doesn't even know the security can be bypassed at least Dutch wasn't aware of the problem. Thats why a few kiddies can still play their games. Murph the sky isn't falling but I haven't said anything that isn't true. Securty can be broken in Red Baron, monitor and RSS both do not stop the memory hack at all. I know it, I tested against both RSS and monitor and even the later terminator version and I wasn't flagged as abusing the game. I turned in the results to the Klay and Pepe but they failed to communicate it to the server ops it seems. So the scarry thing is that it seems the server ops are not aware that the memory hack beats their security. So the very security you tout is in fact allowing abuse because people are lulled into a false sense of security. Mind you it does stop the xp speeder program and it does allot ip's to be banned so that is a very good thing!!!

Is there alot of abuse, no it isn't. I know of only a few who have used this and while I have only my eyes to go on since none of the security can catch it, I do know the tell tale signs of the hack. Tailess dr1's that still turn like new, slower rolling planes that roll extremely well and very good energy retention even after violent maneuvers are all signs of memory hack weight reduction has been done. Unfortunately the security will need to have a flight model monitor written for it and that will take alot of time to do, if it can even be done that is!

The MAJORITY of the community do not hack the game! Red Baron is a good arcade game to play. The offline play is better because of the flight model being more realistic in the off line play.

Normal Flight Model that is the standard for Red Baron at the moment does not produce gun jams, does not cut off engines due to gravity feed so you can fly upside down forever if you want, and it does not break the plane apart due to stress on the wings. Thus you do not have anything close to realistic flight.

So Murph you do have to put up with a few kiddies who fly Red Baron and hack the game. And your security can be beaten because there is no flight model checker. All people need are the tools on the flybert site to show them the aircraft data and then a memory search and edit program to alter the weight and they can be an f-16 if they want. Or they can just shave 50 pounds off and be an ace pilots. So the irony is the tools they wrote to allow fixing the flight model are the same tools the kiddies can use to get the info they need to hack the game!

Either way the kiddes can play and there is nothing you can do to stop them! Because the security doesn't flag it then there is no proof to ban them with!

So for the reasons of that and mainly the arcade style flight model I would not recomend online play. The people in the community do like the game alot, and are good people so if you aren't looking for alot of historical accuracy with aircraft models. Like for instance the Sopwith Tripe outclimbs all over aircraft in NFM then they should play it. If they want more historical accuracy they would be better of playing offline using the intermediate mode, assuming their pc isn't very fast that is. Allthough I do recall something that would slow the pc down to make it playable.

BTW Murph and red baron company I did a demo for Tiger to show him the hack that I speak of. He saw it, I also have a witness to beating RSS with an F-16 D7. If you want to email me I can put you in touch with the CO of his unit to comfirm what I have said is true. And you can ask tiger about the tailless dr1 if you want as I took off about 400 pounds to make the effect easy to see. With only 50-100 pounds off you would not be able to tell easily.

So Murph can someone memory hack the game? Of course you could always ask Pepe or Klay about it.

Originally Posted by lucky13

Hmm.. that just show how little he play.
I am one of the guys that runs servers in redbaron3d, we have a server ops group, were most of the guys with servers are in. We work together to prevent hackers, hackers are now a rare sight in mmp (multi player), we have secrety programs that logs and boot hackers, and other types of cheats. And when we do record a hacker, or a grifer, they are warned, if they do it again they are banned from all servers run by the ppl in the server ops group, for a periode. If they continue they will end up permanently banned as a few have become.

My impression of redbaron3d online, talking as a guy who have been flying online for a little over 2 years, its the only online game so far I have found with such a communety. We are like a big famely.

In fact there was a guy from our communety that got sick, and almost lost his home because of the medical bills, he was talking about this on WOV, one of the most common rb forums, and you know what happend, ppl donated enogh money for him to get on his feed again.

If you wanna know more about redbaron3d I suggest u visit these links, also feel free to email me on [email protected]:

http://www.wings-of-valor.net/ <-- WOV, most used redbaron forum

http://www.Jasta3.tk/ <-- My squadrons home

http://www.j3lucky13.tk <-- my site

LOL Lucky let me know when you want me to run a test for you in your server and you can see for yourself LOL!

Lucky I tested for Klay, I know the real deal. But that information is hidden from the server ops to protect the hole from abuse by others. Thus those who are abusing the game can get away with it because the server ops don't know LOL! Thanks for proving my point so well for me!

[Ritter von Fear]

I can't believe this game is still going. I used to be a member of Jasta 18 (RIP) from 1998-2000. Quite surprising that one or two squads from the old days are still around, though many like Jasta 18 have become inactive or dead.

I do miss the old days.

lol chiggy gone nuts

I've only stated what is true, if you guys want to make this a hacking thread we can talk about it. If you want to talk about normal flight models limits we can talk about it.

The difference is lucky while I might consider you ignorant of the hack issues, I won't call you nuts sir! So Lucky go ask Klay if the memory hack can be caught! Or Pepe for that matter. If RSS can't stop it with it's client side security monitor sure isn't going to stop it.

I'd rather focus on the flight model limits myself as I see that is a bigger weakness to online play then the hacking. The only real issue I have had with hacks is that the community wants to stick their heads in holes and pretend it doesn't exist by claiming security is all powerful, or as you are doing in your last post, assaulting those who have spoken out with nut job labels.

While it's somewhat effective in quieting those who would speak up, it does nothing to fix the massive hole.

I'd drop in and demo for you in pepe's server except I promised not to test it in the server anymore after I told him about the test. So I can't break my promise.

So Lucky you want the truth? Do you have an open mind or is the world flat for you?