Sim SKinner Needs Help

[iart7]

I've done a couple of skins for Dawn of Aces / Flyboys and am getting ready to submit them. I'd like some comments and opinions if anyone is willing concerning the skin colors of these 2 Camels. One is Clive Collett's B1 plane and the other is Roy Brown's red-cowl Camel.

Basically, is the color correct, is the saturation correct?

ALSO, I'm wanting to paint a skin of Arthur H. Cobby's Camel and want help to find a good copy of the Charlie Chaplin graphic that was on his plane.

EDITED: oops, I just found the illustrations submitted by SteveS and Neil_E in reply to Terry_Crisp's post. But, is there a better one, and what is the object in front of Charlie's left leg, a perfume bottle? LINK

Thank you, here are the images:





And if you want to see a larger, sharp wallpaper of the Brown plane, click here:

http://www.iart7.com/WARBIRDS/galler...s/Brown_65.jpg

Roy Brown Sopwith Camel
Clive Collett Sopwith Camel

[FlyXwire]

Hi Art,

Here's a full B&W view of Cobby's Chapman:



I've also never seen the Sopwith factory lettering shown on the PC10-painted stabilizer:



Might also want to darken the insignia blue a bit, the PC10 color overall, and the clear doped linen surfaces would appear more cream-colored (like the CDL stabilizer here) rather than grey, but so much of this depends on your eyes and our monitor settings.

[iart7]

Wow, excellent, and thanks for everything. I made the changes and it looks great!

art

[iart7]

Anything I need to change here?


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1. Does anyone know if there was a serial number on the plane or rudder?

2. Color of the "hump" was __________

3. Letter "A" on wing was a non-serif font, right?

4. Is the "Claplin" figure too small, too large?

Thanks again for anyone helping me.

Art

[iart7]

I've gone too far with the green this time, but here's the Charlie Chaplin Camel again:

[iart7]

Thanks again FlyXwire. I enlarged the Chaplin logo a little and have recently started work on my next plane skin -- a "Candy-Striped" Norman MacGregor camel.

In looking at more internet reference photos, I found an original Camel in a museum (in London) I think. It shows control cables on the left side of the fuselage. It can be seen here in this photo. N6812 = original Sopwith Camel, but it is the ACTUAL aircraft flown by Lt Stuart D Culley during World War I.

I would like to be as accurate in my paintskins and would like to ask the following question of anyone who knows Camels:

Did all, most or some of the Camels have control cables on the outside of the fuselage as shown on the Culley plane? It shows a rotator bar with 2 cables attached. Were these cables on only the left side or both sides? In particular if known, were these cables on Norman MacGregor's camel as shown here?

THANK YOU A MILLION FOR HELPING ME!

Art

[FlyXwire]

Hi Art,

N6812 in the Imperial War Museum is a "Ships Camel" (2F.1), a design for the British Admiralty that differed from the F.1 Camel by featuring a shorter wing span, narrower undercarriage track, revised armament configuration for attacking German airships too, internal air flotation bags, and a detachable hinged rear fuselage for easier stowage aboard Naval vessels. The internal stowage of the flotation bags necessitated the routing of the elevator control cables externally, but this was a specific design feature of the 2F.1 Camel exclusively.

The standard F.1 Sopwith Camels that were deployed for fighting over land featured control cables that were routed internally in the aircraft's fuselage before they exited near the tail end of the fuselage.

As a general suggestion, I would consider getting a Windsock Datafile for the particular aircraft you're skinning (they're very useful for the kind of detailed information you might need on each type, and well worth the purchase price).

In the meantime, here's a link to a good photo album of the very authentic Sopwith Camel replica that flies in New Zealand, and it shows the position of the standard Camel's control cables:

Warbirds Over New Zealand

[iart7]

Thanks a ton, Dave!

I'll stick to the inside/out cables and will post an image of MacGregor's plane here.



Art