A modern day RB I hope???

Ross_Moorhouse · 13 August 2003, 01:26 PM

http://www.aspectsimulations.com/Prod_KOE.htm

I have worked with one of the guys that is on the team of this game. Matthew Herman, so it should be a very good game.

14 August 2003, 04:02 PM

Looks Good!

I hope it plays great too!

Ross_Moorhouse · 14 August 2003, 04:27 PM

The guys developing this are all aviation nuts so it should be good.

Scimitar · 14 August 2003, 09:06 PM

Cool...

cspellman · 17 August 2003, 09:45 PM

Yeah this is definately overdue and something to look forward to. I think we ought to campaign to have a few other planes added not slated for inclusion in the game - namely the Zeppellin Staaken R.VI!!

MilesC · 19 August 2003, 09:24 AM

This all looks to be late war action, any idea if they are going to model say from 1916 onwards?

cspellman · 19 August 2003, 03:41 PM

I have written to them twice and they are extremely tight-lipped about details.

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This all looks to be late war action, any idea if they are going to model say from 1916 onwards?

Shredward · 20 August 2003, 08:00 AM

>I have written to them twice and they are extremely tight-lipped about details.<

Both incoming and outgoing. They are largely ignoring the RB & SWISSA communities as well.
cheers,
shredward

21 August 2003, 05:27 PM

They are tight about info! I e-mailed them over a week ago and they have not sent me one back, they are secretive!

22 August 2003, 04:07 AM

(I posted this on the Sim HQ forum - might as well post it here as well)

Most would say - yea I really hope so, and it should be since it is being developed by some of the same guys who developed RBII. Me, I’m not so sure. Here’s why;
* RBII - when it was released was - a mess!!! Anyone remember? How about this link to bring it all back; http://www.intelligamer.com/sims/rb2/rb2.asp
The last paragraph says it all;
“How Sierra could have released Red Baron II in the condition they did is a mystery. Perhaps the cynics are right and some companies really will do anything to ship product before the Christmas buying season. Although Sierra is now promising patches to fix the worst of the bugs and later to support 3D accelerators, I can't but recommend that you wait a good long time for the dust to settle. Otherwise you are going to regret that you spent your hard earned $60. In the mean time, download the original Red Baron for free from the Sierra web site, you'll have more fun with that, even if it is in stunning 16 color graphics.”
* Sure Sierra did support the product post release - but this was after howls of complaints from the simming community. And, really, they only fixed the glaring stuff (added 3D support, added views, supported MMP) and left the less obvious or more involved stuff for the community to handle (poor terrain, poor FM’s, poor DM’s, poor a/c models, etc., etc., etc.).
* The RBII modding community made RBII the classic that it is today - and w/ the release of the Western Front Patch, then the Hells Angels patch and now FCJ there is still a lot of life left in this old gal.
* Was SWWISA or Kess ever approached for their input/opinions - NO!! Why the hell not is what I want to know? These guys are uber talented and have done things - w/o the source code mind you - that no one would have thought possible.
* What do we really know about KOE at this point? Pretty a/c models, interesting DM graphics and so-so terrain - that’s it!!!
* “But these are the RBII guys!”, I hear you say. Yea, Tucker Hatlfield was an RBII guy too and went on to produce those 2 “very fine” products, CFS2 and CFS3 for M$. :

Don’t get me wrong - I would KILL for an up to date WWI flight sim w/ the attention to detail of an IL-2FB and a dynamic campaign w/ all that RBII “chrome”. I just want to caution all of you that it is way too early to start popping champagne corks over KOE.

Regards,
Barkhorn.