Can Anyone Id This Ehrenbecher / Honor Goblet?

Aerowallah · 7 July 2005, 06:37 PM

UNUSUAL EHRENBECHER--Can anyone ID this?

Like the regular Bechers it has a Kogenluft stamp on the base. Hallmarks on the side of the goblet are, left to right: moon; crown; 800; and eagle.

8 July 2005, 07:21 AM

That's an awesome looking goblet....... but the date of May 31, 1915?? There is no May 31? Not now, not then??

Otherwise I'd be inclined to call it some type of bombing award with the God Thor (Tor) on there!

wulffo · 8 July 2005, 09:25 AM

Tor should be spelt Thor but May does have 31 days

mikec · 8 July 2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stogieman

That's an awesome looking goblet....... but the date of May 31, 1915?? There is no May 31? Not now, not then??

Otherwise I'd be inclined to call it some type of bombing award with the God Thor (Tor) on there!

Well I know nothing at all about this subject matter but if you "Google" the date you come up with lots of quotes along the following lines:

"The first Zeppelin raid on London was at midnight on May 31st 1915, when Hauptmann Linnarz bombed the capital killing seven people and making £18,000 worth of damage".

Relevant or complete red herring, I've no idea.

MattyBoy · 8 July 2005, 10:04 AM

I think Mike's right.

I cannot seem to find anything major as regards aeroplane victories over Britain or the Western front on this date.

Maybe it was handed to Linnarz?

VtwinVince · 8 July 2005, 01:01 PM

Very interesting, it looks just like my uncle's goblet, even with the "Chef des Feldflugwesens" mark on it. This should be put up on wehrmacht-awards.com for more info. I'd like to hear Stogieman's opinion on this piece.

8 July 2005, 05:57 PM

I love the goblet, looks quite correct to me and even without seeing the marks, they are correctly described for a period piece. While the crown is irrelevant to badges, I have yet to see a goblet without one.

Alas, I am getting old to the point that apparently for the last several years i have missed May 31st every time it happens! Gee I feel dumb!

8 July 2005, 06:00 PM

...... my only objection was the date.... I think you have a real prize.. all my "gut call" bells are ringing loud and clear. I like it!

VtwinVince · 9 July 2005, 12:59 PM

Stogie, since this goblet has the official marks on it, do you think it was created in the same fashion as the Ehrenbecher, with the stipend coming from captains of industry etc? Or was this something privately created using a blank Ehrenbecher? I find it quite fascinating.

Aerowallah · 9 July 2005, 04:37 PM

Here is a side detail showing oakleaves and hallmarks from the side of the Becher, basically the same position as on the regular Becher...

left to right: Moon ; Crown ; 800 ; Prussian Eagle.
Rgds