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30 May 2006, 04:56 AM
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Houseorder of Hohenzollern Members Cross
Hello,
is somebody able to look at O'Connor's "Aviation Awards of Imperial Germany ...", Vol. 2, p. 146 (I think) and give me the names of the recipients of the Members Cross with swords of the Houseorder of Hohenzollern? I think there were only 16. Right? And in Vol VII (the issue I have) O'Connor adds that  Edmund Nathanael was omitted from the postwar list of this order because he was jewish.What was this order? Something between the Iron Cross and the PlM? Thank you very much, Lorenz 
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30 May 2006, 09:05 AM
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O´Connor said "Ten of the 16 awards were given to airmen, all of them non-comissioned officer pilots."
He notes and describes the biographies of the following airmen: Offizier-Stellvertreter Fritz KosmahlVizefeldwebel Sebastian FestnerVizefeldwebel Josef Schleiffer Offizier-Stellvertreter Max Müller Offizier-Stellvertreter Hans Basch Vizefeldwebel Julius Tillmanns Offizier-Stellvertreter (First name?) Krause Offizier-Stellvertreter Albert Jünger Offizier-Stellvertreter Karl ThomVizefeldwebel Franz-Josef Ophaus As well O´Connor mentioned already Edmund Nathanael and asks if he was the "Nathanael" who was mentioned by the Militär-Wochenblatt as holder of the award. And yes, something between EK1 and PlM but I assume it was the highest Prussian award which could be applied to a NCO. Already the little number of 16 (in fact 18?) awards makes it so valuable. VBR Rammjaeger |
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30 May 2006, 11:06 AM
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Lorenz: following our earlier conversation I've also added the dates to Hannes' list.
Offizier-Stellvertreter Fritz Kosmahl 9 Jan 1917Vizefeldwebel Sebastian Festner 23 April 1917Vizefeldwebel Josef Schleiffer 30 May 1917 Offizier-Stellvertreter Max Müller 14 july 1917Offizier-Stellvertreter Hans Basch 3 August 1917 Vizefeldwebel Julius Tillmanns 23 August 1917 Offizier-Stellvertreter (First name?) Krause 30 August 1917 Offizier-Stellvertreter Albert Jünger 16 October 1917 Offizier-Stellvertreter Karl Thom 7 August 1918Vizefeldwebel Franz-Josef Ophaus 3 October 1918 Mike
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