Coloring Contest!

AAC Cadet Leader · 27 August 2006, 04:16 PM

Print this off, colorize Nungesser's medals and ribbons accurately with colored pencils or crayons, watercolors, whatever, then scan and post your results here. A rare brass limited edition Air Adventurers Club wing pin and accompanying membership card will be awarded for the most accurate rendering!

Also, judge(s) with knowledge of medals needed.

See post #39 under Art Topic thread "a Soup to Nuts WW1 Aviation Painting"

Thank you in advance for your participation or for any info with which you can assist.

AAC Cadet Leader · 29 August 2006, 10:44 AM

no takers, huh? fine. be that way. see if i care. where are all you upstairs ex-perts when i need you.

(jes kidding.)

~aac

Graeme · 29 August 2006, 03:46 PM

AAC Cadet Leader

Top row left to right: Legion d'Honneur (red ribbon), Medaille Militaire (ribbon is yellow with green edges) and Croix de Guerre (ribbon is green with seven vertical red stripes)

Bottom row left to right: British Military Cross (ribbon is equal widths of white, purple, white) and ? (can't make out enough detail).

Graeme

Graeme · 30 August 2006, 03:58 PM

AAC Cadet Leader

According to "Over The Front" Nungesser was entitled to wear:

Officer's Cross of the Legion d'honneur
Medaille Militaire
Croix de Guerre with 28 Palmes and 2 Stars
Belgian Croix de Guerre
Belgian Order of the Crown
Montenegro Order of Danilo
Distinguished Service Cross (USA)
Portuguese Croix de Guerre
Cross of Karageorge (Russia) - this actually a Serbian decoration
Cross of Bravery (Serbia)

With all that metalwork on his chest, he must have flown very left wing down!

Graeme

Aerowallah · 15 September 2006, 08:41 AM

C'mon, cadet leader, Graeme should win something...perhaps they took away his crayons, too. All they left me was this wooden spoon!

AAC Cadet Leader · 16 September 2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerowallah

C'mon, cadet leader, Graeme should win something...perhaps they took away his crayons, too. All they left me was this wooden spoon!

Aerowallah,
Well, perhaps Graeme should win something, since he's the only one here

who made the effort to provide me some info. But, note the title of this thread and the specific instructions in the first post. i don't see no colorings posted, do you? and he left me in the lurch on that fifth medal.

I have no idea how to detail it out.

see?

I will work up a certificate of appreciation for Graeme however.

Sreiko · 16 September 2006, 02:03 PM

Sorry- I can not do better. Miss a lot of info about the medals. BTW- Serbian medal is named Karadjodjev krst and mean Karadjordje's cross

Graeme · 17 September 2006, 01:56 AM

Hi AAC Cadet Leader

I've been trying to figure out what that fifth medal is, so here's what I've come up with so far.

The medal is circular and hangs from a "triangular" ribbon.

We can rule out the Order of Danilo I since this was a Greek cross in style (the outline was circular but it had definite "arms"); also, the information I have is that it was awarded to Majors and above. If it a Montenegrin award, it would be either the Milosh Obilitch Medal (unlikely since it was awarded mainly to other ranks) or the Military Bravery Medal (awarded to persons of junior officer rank and above). There is some debate about the ribbon for these awards, but weight of opinion favours a plain white ribbon with red edges.

If it is a Serbian award, the options are the Obilitch Medal for Bravery and the Silver Bravery Medal. We can rule out the former since it was awarded to NCOs and men. The ribbon for the latter was red with horizontal white flashes on the right edge. The ribbon on Nungesser's award suggests a light (white ?) colour with, perhaps, darker edges.

Nothing Russian seems to fit the bill since the only circular medal would seem to be the Medal of Saint George, but this was awarded predominantly to other ranks. Anyway, the ribbon was orange and black.

So far I've drawn a blank with the Portuguese Croix de Guerre although I know the ribbon was red with five vertical green stripes.

All in all, I'd say it was the Montenegrin Miltary Bravery Medal rather than the Serbian Cross of Bravery.

I'll see if I can put together a picture that shows the medals and their ribbons. Watch this space.

Graeme

AAC Cadet Leader · 17 September 2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Hi AAC Cadet Leader

I've been trying to figure out what that fifth medal is, so here's what I've come up with so far.

The medal is circular and hangs from a "triangular" ribbon.

We can rule out the Order of Danilo I since this was a Greek cross in style (the outline was circular but it had definite "arms"); also, the information I have is that it was awarded to Majors and above. If it a Montenegrin award, it would be either the Milosh Obilitch Medal (unlikely since it was awarded mainly to other ranks) or the Military Bravery Medal (awarded to persons of junior officer rank and above). There is some debate about the ribbon for these awards, but weight of opinion favours a plain white ribbon with red edges.

If it is a Serbian award, the options are the Obilitch Medal for Bravery and the Silver Bravery Medal. We can rule out the former since it was awarded to NCOs and men. The ribbon for the latter was red with horizontal white flashes on the right edge. The ribbon on Nungesser's award suggests a light (white ?) colour with, perhaps, darker edges.

Nothing Russian seems to fit the bill since the only circular medal would seem to be the Medal of Saint George, but this was awarded predominantly to other ranks. Anyway, the ribbon was orange and black.

So far I've drawn a blank with the Portuguese Croix de Guerre although I know the ribbon was red with five vertical green stripes.

Quote:

All in all, I'd say it was the Montenegrin Miltary Bravery Medal rather than the Serbian Cross of Bravery.

I'll see if I can put together a picture that shows the medals and their ribbons. Watch this space.

Graeme

Nice research, Graeme! I think that must be the same medal according to the info given to me by William Nungesser,

Charles Nungesser's third cousin. According to William, the fifth medal is the "Miltary Valour Medal" from Montenegro. Silver, round, with coat-of-arms suspended from a triangulated ribbon of three diagonal, proportionate stripes of red, light blue and white. Originals are scarce to find.

The ribbon on yours is different, however than the one pictured in William's photo of a collection of original medals he has that represent Charles Nungesser's medals. The photos of his cousin's medals collection is quite something to see.

Good try, Srieko. You're a whiz at photoshop cut 'n paste!

another certificate of appreciation is in order.
Thanks Scott for posting Graeme's pics.

Graeme · 17 September 2006, 10:31 AM

AAC Cadet Leader

Sounds like the Montenegrin Military Bravery Medal is the one. One option for the ribbon was of equal stripes of red, blue, white with earlier awards (but not referring to a specific date) being worn on a white ribbon having a centre and side stripes of red. The medal was awarded until the dissolution of the kingdom of Montenegro in 1919.

Graeme

My thanks to Scott, as well for posting the images.