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Old 23 February 2008, 05:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Karl Thom Pilot Badge on eBay

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I highly Doubt it, but thought everyone else might like to take a peek!


IMPERIAL GERMAN WWI PRUSSIAN SILVER PILOT BADGE - eBay (item 350026478806 end time Mar-01-08 19:00:00 PST)


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Old 23 February 2008, 10:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ken- Could be his. I have the data plate from one of his Fokker D.VII aircraft. Rank and Jasta match on the pilot badge. Even though a PLM winner, Thom is not exactly a household name among WW-I enthusiasts.

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Old 24 February 2008, 02:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Taz,

The engraving looks to be of the style used on many WWI German badges of the period. So who knows?? It would be a nice addition to the data plate though, if you could get it for good price??

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Old 24 February 2008, 09:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Didn't Karl Thom go missing in Russia during WW2? It would be interesting to know where this turned up...
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Old 25 February 2008, 11:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi,

I studied these badges in detail several years back. I found that there are many, many copies out there. If anyone is seriously interested in this badge, they should get better close-up photos (the ones provided are not detailed enough to determine authenticity).

For great discussions on this type of badge, go here:

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If you register, you can find great people to discuss this particular badge with.

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Old 26 February 2008, 03:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The badge is a copy.
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Old 26 February 2008, 04:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have seen not long ago a fake badge of Karl Menckhoff, where his name was engraved as Meckhof or something. It was stated it would be an original. I would never buy such a badge on ebay for myself. There must be many of fake copies beeing around.
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Old 26 February 2008, 04:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This is an known Fake.

And this is not the first time that someone use famous pilots to reach good prices. Look at this auction.
Badge ok but the not the engraving.
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Old 26 February 2008, 07:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I would add my vote to those who say this is a fantasy made to deceive. From what I can see, everything about it not right. The detailing is not even close to what real originals have, and the engraving on the back is poorly done and you can see things like the underlying lines where the amateurish engraver did not quite follow. Not even an apprentice jeweler of the day would have let something like that quality of engraving out of their shop. Finally, if it were real it would not have a starting bid of $60 or an estimate of $300 to $1,200 - it would be sold through a private sale to a serious collector for at least ten times that amount - or even more.
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When the badge is an fake it doesn`t matter what is engraved
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