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Old 20 August 2010, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Iron Cross - 1st Class

These photos are of an Iron Cross
that was in my Grandfather's old scrapbook
of WWI mementos. He told me he had removed
it from a German pilot who had fatally crashed
at his Aerodrome. I presume that was at Issoudun
Aerodrome. These photos are part of my 641st.
Aero Squadron Facebook site.
Regards, Todd

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Old 21 August 2010, 03:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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very nice. i have one with all the paperwork that goes with it. got it years ago at a show is germany. mine does not have the pin on the back . did they come both ways? (for a ribbon or chain or pin)
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Old 21 August 2010, 07:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Iron Cross with ribbon

Hi robkamm,

From my research if you have an Iron Cross with a ribbon on it that is a Second Class award. The Iron Cross with a pin is a First Class award.
The First Class Iron Cross can be flat or vaulted. Mine is vaulted.
The paperwork is great to have.
Does your Iron Cross have a number or Hallmark on the reverse?
With your paperwork is the name of the recipient of this award listed?
I wish I knew the name of the German Aviator that wore this Iron Cross.

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Old 21 August 2010, 08:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Gents,

here a document for the iron cross 1st class awarded to Ltd.R. Friedrich Müller, observer by FA A 282. He was a cavalry officer at the begin of WW1.
Second pic show his IC1 that come with this group.

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Old 21 August 2010, 11:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yes i have his complete military record. payment books from ww1 and 2 , compains books, misc railway passes etc. it was a great find. he was a soldier in both wars for germany. i can post more info/papers if you like. the iron cross document is not on paper. looks like a kind of fabric or wax cloth.? pictures on the way
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Looking forward to your photos

I look forward to your posts.
If we are lucky we might see some more Iron crosses on this thread.

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i keep getting incorrect file extension when i try to load the pics. ill try monday from work computer unless i can email them to you to post.
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Old 21 August 2010, 11:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi Guys,

Here are the pictures from my Iron cross second class with his document

On the ring there is a mark 'KM' this stands for " Konigliche Muenzamt Stuttgart " wich is the maker of this cross.

(PS this is the last week I'll have it,it's for sale on a Belgium site)
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..and here is my Iron Cross First Class.

Mark is L54 maker is Herstellers L/54, Schauerte & Höhfeld, Lüdenscheid.
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And a pilot ring and pin..
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