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Old 25 March 2006, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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German Military Recruitment Poster - MvR

Size is 27 cm X 35 cm
Poster is glued to a piece of cardboard.
Date printed on poster is September 1917 (not necessarily date of item)

Originally I thought this had been smeared with coffee, tea or stain of some type to artificially give it appearance of being old. Upon close inspection it looks as if the glue used to glue it to the cardboard backing has bleed through the paper and has discolored the poster. I'm about 95% sure it is the glue that has altered the color and look of the paper. A few places that are not glued, show light cream colored paper and true gray and black printing. Glue appears to be a rubber cement or contact adhesive of some type. Glue job is very old and is coming lose around the edges allowing one to look under it.

Has anyone seen this poster before? True WWI era item or something mass produced and sold to tourist? Treasure or trash?

(white line is where I pieced 2 scans together.)




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Old 25 March 2006, 10:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Serious mistakes in grammar and content indicate the fabrication was not made by a German!

- "seinem Fliegerzirkus" (3. Case) is correct but not "sein Fliegerzirkus" in this context
- "Hier sind geschildert Volontäre" makes no sense in German language.
- As well it must read "übergetreten sind" but not "übertreten" in this context.
- The "Luftstreitkräfte" (plural) were never "kaiserlich(en) deutsch(en)" but included Royal-Prussian, Royal Bavarian, Royal Saxon and Royal Württemberg units.
- As well Luftwaffe was not an offical term in this time.
- Finally a German poster would name a military office or service (and possibly an address) which did order this call out.

A FAKE!

Never seen before.

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Old 25 March 2006, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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At least the faker searched for a real German Verlag - the Schlüssel Verlag in Bremen exists or existed and the photograph shows an airfield in Lübeck - also situated in Northern Germany. Nevertheless it is a FAKE.
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Old 26 March 2006, 05:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello,

I agree with Rammjäger.

Apart from that terrible use of the German Language, which does not speak for a German publishing company, I would very much like to know how a image of Fokker Dr.I 425/17 (that red little triplane) could be linked to a date as early as September 1917.

This is definetely a fake.

If it is vintage, it is certainly not printed by a German publisher like "Schlüssel Verlag", and most probably was printed after the death of Manfred von Richthofen.

Also note the use of the supposedly old German font style. Does anybody know of any original document printed during WWI that actually used that type of font?

Regarding the grammer: "Hier sind geschildert...." is obviously an attempt to translate "Here are depicted..." into German. The correct translation would read "Hier sind abgebildet....".

It is a funny thing with far too many obvious mistakes to be considered a vintage German document.

As I said: If it is vinatge it was created by a non German after WWI.

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