Ernst Udet's albums on ebay

[Gregvan]

Hi All,

I guess I might as well spill the beans. Just like Regulus in regard to the auction of Christiansen's albums, I'm very angry that no less than seven of Udet's own personal albums are being auctioned soon by Hermann Historika:

6276: Ernst Udet - sieben Fotoalben - eBay (item 180224036497 end time Apr-15-08 13:00:00 PDT)

Of course, the main reason I'm angry is that I can't afford to bid anywhere in the universe of these auctions. These will go for thousands and thousands of dollars/euros. I only hope somebody or some institution that will act in a responsible and sharing manner is successful in getting these, and that we eventually see these photos published somewhere.

Greg

[BismarcksOtto]

I'm right there with you, mate- that feeling of utter powerlessness in regards of something one really cares about is quite nasty.


And just like with the Christiansen Albums, I get the same damnable "Nazi Memorabilia Block" info. I'm used to getting it when checking out German Cavalry items from between c.a. 1925 and 1945, but this is getting ridiculous!

[Taz]

Greg, Otto- We just know there is a photo of DDN! in the lot, which would answer half our questions on that aircraft. Plus some Dr.I photos as well. We should have clued in Peter or someone who could afford the albums. Might be worth asking if he picked them up. Deep pockets, indeed.

Taz
Terry Phillips

[FliegerJG1]

Sometimes I wish I didn't read this stuff....then I wouldn't know about all the wonderful things that are being sold to Mr. Deep Pocket$$ and life wouldn't hurt as much. Anyway...I just finished viewing all of the auction listings. There are several photo albums, a pilot's helmet, a postcard of MvR signed in March 1918 probably one his last, and a Navy award cup amongst the lot.

Here are some numbers of a few of these things...

180224036584

180224036590

180224036454

180224036483

180224036760

Hoping for a good home for these!

FliegerJG1

[Bettors Pub]

Maybe someone can get word to Peter somehow and somewhat keep them "in the family".

[Laserlloyd]

If I could buy this I would and preserve this history for all to share with the publication of these fantastic photo that need to be seen but I can't. So I hope that the buyer will take into consideration the importances of these albums.

Spread the word to everyone you know, an email campaign should be undertaken to spread the word. Maybe there will be hope that someone in our ear shoot will take up these albums and do what is right and just.

The other thing that could be done is a group of you could combine there buying power to have control on these albums. There are options and they should be explored.

Greg, if you could find 7-10 people that could all put in $1,000.00 then we could have a chance. Just trying to help.

Lloyd...

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by BismarcksOtto

I'm right there with you, mate- that feeling of utter powerlessness in regards of something one really cares about is quite nasty.


And just like with the Christiansen Albums, I get the same damnable "Nazi Memorabilia Block" info. I'm used to getting it when checking out German Cavalry items from between c.a. 1925 and 1945, but this is getting ridiculous!

Hi BismarcksOtto,

This is all that I could find:

6276: Ernst Udet - sieben Fotoalben


aus dem Besitz Udets, hauptsächlich die Zeit des Ersten Weltkrieges und die 20er Jahre des 20.Jhdts. betreffend.
Album mit der laufenden Nummer 1: Pappeinband, 34 x 27 cm, 163 Fotos aus der Zeit 1915 bis Anfang 1916. Dabei Armeeflugpark Geade, F.Fl.68, K.E.A., Originalunterschrift Eduard Böhmes, viele Personen namentlich bezeichnet.
Album mit der laufenden Nummer 6: 26 x 19 cm, 103 Fotos, Frühjahr/Sommer 1916. Signierte Fotos (größtenteils beschriftet) von W. Glinkermann, Kissenberth, die Maskottchen (Hunde, Fuchs, Leopard, Bär, Ziegen).
Album mit der laufenden Nummer 7b: Pappeinband, 27 x 35 cm, 221 meist kleinformatige Aufnahmen, etwa Mitte 1917. Interessante Fotos zur Bemalung von Flugzeugen.
Album mit der laufenden Nummer 18: Pappeinband, 27 x 35 cm, 171 Bilder aus der Nachkriegszeit von flugsportlichen Ereignissen, nur in Ausnahmefällen beschriftet.
Album mit Widmung "Herrn Udet zur Einnerung an die Flüge auf Haus Eynern am 23. Juni 1926 gewidmet vom Verkehrsamt der Stadt Elberfeld", Pappeinband 25 x 34 cm, 53 Fotos von flugsportlichen Vorführungen.
Album "Siemens-Flugmotoren". Ledereinband 23 x 33 cm. Auf dem Vorsatzblatt gewidmet "Herrn Oberleutn. a.D. Ernst Udet". 51 Fotos von Flugmotoren und Flugzeugen der Firma Siemens, dabei auch Udet als Pilot.
Album anlässlich des Besuches des französischen Generalinspekteurs der Luftwaffe Joseph Vuillemin im August 1938 bei einer Luftwaffenvorführung mit Generaloberst Milch und Generalmajor Udet. Einband fehlt, 24 x 34 cm, 23 großformatige Fotos.
Hochinteressantes Fotomaterial, ca. 785 Aufnahmen von einer der glamourösesten Personen der deutschen Luftfahrtgeschichte.


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By at 2008-04-14

Pretty scary stuff!

I don't know what's worse: not being allowed to see this , or not much to see!
I would think that the seller would bring out the "BIG GUNS" to wet the appetite and achieve a bigger profit!

Very Best Regards, FOKKERJ

P.S. Don't tell Kilian, but there's a "SIEMENS FLUGMOTOREN" Buch!

[crankcase]

...that a successful buyer wouldn't be interested to make available the materials for research purposes? Presumably the only people interested in bidding will be those interested in the subject (maybe one of us with deep pockets).

I know I am being perhaps optimistic here whereas some of you are rightly worried about such materials disappearing into private hands.

CHAPPIE mentions he has a "line" to Peter... Chappie?
marc

[Der Ostwind]

Originally Posted by FOKKERJ

I don't know what's worse: not being allowed to see this , or not much to see!

A good question FOKKERJ, on this example! But there are a lot of other things on ebay.com that is not allowed to german eyes. For example Luftwaffen-pilots goggles or the like - do we life in China? Not every german buyer is a Hakenkreuz-collector

I agree, it would be a real pity if these pictures vanish off the face of the earth

[Regulus]

Perhaps we should do something with a number of people together in the future ? If we can buy such albums with a bumber of us together and take a scan of the whole lot for all buyers together and afterwards sell them to a museum or so ?
Even if one does loose a bit on the sale, everybody would have the collection in digital version, it would be preserved for the next generations and so would the originals.
Just some loud wishfull thinking...