Possible Voss Autograph

MK2 · 28 August 2009, 01:43 PM

This came from the Charles Donald collection (The clipped signed Sanke and a copy of Voss' hand writing). I corresponded with Donald for over 10 years before his death , and i am looking for other exmaples of Voss' signature

I include the only example I have (below the picture, also from Donald's collection).

Exmaple of signed card above with leave authorization (copy) below.

tcrean7828 · 28 August 2009, 02:20 PM

Mate,
It looks like Voss' handwriting on an authorization for him to go on leave 11 Sept 1917.
Here is what I have on the subject:
He had written out and signed his own leave form dated the evening of 11 Sept 1917, authorizing him to travel to Crefeld, Dusseldorf, Berlin and Schwerin, Germany. At the end of his leave he visited the Fokker Flugzeugwerkes at Schwerin, Germany where he flight tested a production model V5 triplane. Voss returned to Marckebeeke airfield and was back in action on the 23 of Sept 1917. When Voss returned from his morning patrol, in which he claimed his 48th Victory, he was greeted by his two brothers, Otto and Max. They had arrived sometime during the morning; they all enjoyed a leisurely lunch together and posed for pictures. They did not know that this was the last time they would see their brother alive, by evening he was dead (a Pfalz D.III was used as a backdrop for the posed pictures). ‘September Evening’ by Barry Diggens – pg 75-76, 78. ‘Who Downed the Aces in World War 1’ by Norman Franks – Pg 90, Illustration pg 11. ‘LT.

Werner Voss – Germany’s Greatest Teenage Ace’ by Walter A. Musciano – Pg.35. 'Richthofen's Circus': Jagdgeschwader Nr 1’ by Greg Vanwyngarden and Harry Dempsey – pg 55.

Translation: Identificaton/Authorization!
Leutnant der Reserve Voss attached to Jagdstaffel 10 is authorized to visit:
Krefeld, Dusseldorf, Berlin and Schwerin.
Leave to begin 11 Sept 1917
Voss
Leutnant in Command

Looks like a copy I have of his leave authorization from the Charles Donald Collection.

Any chance of getting a better scan of the whole pic and the authorization letter for me to compare with the copy that I have?
tcrean7828@yahoo.com

thanks in advance

tcrean7828

tom

MK2 · 28 August 2009, 02:27 PM

Thank you for the reply!

The authorization is the same one you have from Donald (it's just a copy I have). That is about as good as scan as I can get for the Sanke.

tcrean7828 · 28 August 2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK2

Thank you for the reply!

The authorization is the same one you have from Donald (it's just a copy I have). I am trying to identify the sanke above it. That clipped Sanke also came from Donald but I am not sure that sig is right.

What do you think of the signature on the Sanke? That is about as good as scan as i can get for the Sanke.

Mate,
The Sanke card is what is knows as:

Werner Voss’ companion portrate Nr.506, taken at the Voss family home in Krefeld - (Picture courtesy of Voss Family Album; Stadtarchiv Krefeld)

It is the same one that he gave to his girlfriend on 27 Jun 1917.

I believe that the signature is correct - but need to compare it to other Voss signatures that I laying around somewhere.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

P.S. any chance to get a copy of your scan's so that I can see them better and possibly enlarge them. These coke bottle glasses just don't seem to be doing me justice. tc

MK2 · 28 August 2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcrean7828

Mate,
The Sanke card is what is knows as:

Werner Voss’ companion portrate Nr.506, taken at the Voss family home in Krefeld - (Picture courtesy of Voss Family Album; Stadtarchiv Krefeld)

It is the same one that he gave to his girlfriend on 27 Jun 1917.

I believe that the signature is correct - but need to compare it to other Voss signatures that I laying around somewhere.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

P.S. any chance to get a copy of your scan's so that I can see them better and possibly enlarge them. These coke bottle glasses just don't seem to be doing me justice. tc

I am sending you the best scan possible right now. thank you for all the help.

MK2 · 28 August 2009, 02:56 PM

Tom I sent you the big scan and also updated the first post on the thread with the new scan (I like the sig much more now).

tcrean7828 · 28 August 2009, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK2

Tom I sent you the big scan and also updated the first post on the thread with the new scan (I like the sig much more now).

Thanks mate,
Will get back to you shortly!

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

tcrean7828 · 28 August 2009, 03:11 PM

Mate,
Looks like the real thing - but that is just my opinion!

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

MK2 · 28 August 2009, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcrean7828

Mate,
Looks like the real thing - but that is just my opinion!

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

yes making it larger and brighter really helped, the lean on the letters is dead on.....that coupled with the fact I can trace it's history back to Donald is important.

tcrean7828 · 28 August 2009, 05:07 PM

Mate,
No problem - glad to be of assistance.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

P.S. any chance to get a better scan of Voss' leave authorization. You have my email address and your full name would be cool as well, so that I may add you to the list of folks that have Voss material.

tks in advance. tc