Purple Aces Fokker D.VII

[StephenLawson]

The Purple Ace Fokker D.VII is almost ready to be started. Several points of concern;
1. Should I do the wings in 5 colour Lozenge or overpainted purple?
2. Both surfaces of both wings or just one?
3. Anyone have an images they can post?
4. Should it be a late Schwerin, Johannistahl or Schneidemuhl version?
5. Also a relevant serial number would be helpful...This could help me decide whether it was equipped with a D.IIIaö or BMW IIIa.
6.Also anyone have the Metheun colour code for the Purple in question? Should it be more mauve (pinkish) or more blue (violet)?

Since Ginger and Michael have been the closest to view these birds ( usually as they were flamerinos) possibly they could provide the best input. Someone just put their Petrie dishes on a keyboard so they can impart their hard won wisdom... <_<

[NeilE]

Stephen;

According to Vol 6, PP 226-270 of the Memoirs of the Dear Departed Good Herr Doktor Kurt Von Humbrol -"The War Diaries", the colour of the purple Fokkers was more a puce colour. Von Humbrol, who worked with British intelligence during the latter half of the war (following his development of the revolutionary "Excuseme" interuptor gear), relates how when survailling a well known female international criminal with links to shadowy underground freikorps in late 1918, he came across the aerodrome of the so-called purple aces.

He relates how this disolute bunch of huns spent at least half their time dressed in women&#39;s clothing while singing "The Watch On The Rhine" and other fleigertrup favourites. He goes on to state that at this time Madame Dymphna was a frequent visitor to the squadron and believed that her evil influence played its inevitable part in their ultimate downfall.

As well as attesting to the generally puce colour schemes (which people under stress - such as an ace in a burning aircraft - could easily mistake for purple) of the fokkers of the &#39;purple aces&#39;, Von Humbrol - always a keen observer - attests to there often being pieces of what he assumed to be Dymphna&#39;s voluminous (and probably verminous) drawers attached to some of their interplane struts. he notes also that these undergarments were mostly a dirty brownish colour.

Given the Dear Departed Good Herr Doktor&#39;s movements through 1918, this would probably mean his observations dater from just before the Armistice and just before the ill fated &#39;purple aces&#39; ultimate and total destruction by the secret weapons developed and used by the famed and highly decorated 12 Sqn AFC.

HTH

All the Best

Neil
Director
The Glencoe Institute
Liberia

[Rob_Owens]

Stephen, Um. . . I know you don&#39;t like the "flat affect" (as opposed to the semi-gloss, or satin that is your usual self ) and blocks to modeling genius they cause, but you really, REALLY need to get back on your meds&#33; A Concerned and Caring Friend

[StephenLawson]

Yes, But I&#39;m feeling much better now.....

[NeilE]

Originally posted by StephenLawson@Feb 24 2004, 01:06 PM
[b] Yes, But I&#39;m feeling much better now.....

Ah&#33; Another satisfied customer of the The Dear Departed Good Herr Doktor Von Humbrol&#39;s "White Rabbit" brand calmative medication&#33;&#33;



ATB

Neil
Etc




They was Puce&#33;

[StephenLawson]

Originally posted by Neil_E@Feb 24 2004, 12:29 AM
[b] Stephen;

According to Vol 6, PP 226-270 of the Memoirs of the Dear Departed Good Herr Doktor Kurt Von Humbrol -"The War Diaries", the colour of the purple Fokkers was more a puce colour. Von Humbrol, who worked with British intelligence during the latter half of the war (following his development of the revolutionary "Excuseme" interuptor gear), relates how when survailling a well known female international criminal with links to shadowy underground freikorps in late 1918, he came across the aerodrome of the so-called purple aces...Given the Dear Departed Good Herr Doktor&#39;s movements through 1918, this would probably mean his observations dater from just before the Armistice and just before the ill fated &#39;purple aces&#39; ultimate and total destruction by the secret weapons developed and used by the famed and highly decorated 12 Sqn AFC.

HTH* *

All the Best

Neil
Director
The Glencoe Institute
Liberia

* *

Unfortunately we must disregard this section of Dr. von Humbrol&#39;s diary as it is common knowlwedge that he was heavily sedated during this period due to his encounter with &#39;the chicken.&#39; Common knowledge old man&#33; To him violet looked much like puce. In his letters to his sister abigail von Humbrol (before she married Kurt von Revell) he told her that the violet color gown she had chosen was a lovely color of &#39;puce.&#39;

Also the well known Latvian secrectary that Dr. von Humbrol employed during this time was Alexa Grevick ( the former grand national tassel spinner of Latvia) was known to be color blind herself. Since her handwriting was of a cryptic nature it was easy to be confused. You see it was the old Dr. hisself that took to wearing dresses during his foray into the camp of the dreaded Purple Ace crew. The huns were actually American pilots captured by the Germans and turned into Zombie like creatures to serve the Fatherland in bringing down more allied pilots. Concerning the secret weapon episode I&#39;m afraid you have your facts in a twist but being that the rabid angolphile documents are quoted I have to sadly press that it was just another blatent case of overclaiming. Only two ships were lost that day. It was on Nov. 10,1918 that the advance of the allied armies over ran the Purple Ace Jasta still on the ground in their state of regeneration and brought the service of the Purple Ace Jasta to a halt.

Now as to what we know about their colour markings; The Nose areas of the active fighter unit were never yellow painted. They were Purple or banded Purple and White much like the vaunted Jasta 6. The story of the yellow came from an allied report when one of the Purple Ace training aircraft was brought down by a Lt. Dude of the AEF sixth pursuit sqdn. The yellow nose was the mark of an unarmed trainer. Lt. Dude evidently expelled some 475 rounds into the machine before it fell.

It is true that the Germans told the Purple Ace pilots that they could use the parachute packs attached to their cabane struts that these were in actuality only the beast&#39;s dirty linens. The Germans were afraid that washing them in the German water supply would create toxins that even the Germans would be afraid to use as chemical agents.

This from the Nachrictenblatter von der OberKellnerKrafte Vol. 314 pp 224-347.

While little is known about 12 AFC we do have the diary of one SSgt Blue (formerly an officer demoted in disgrace after his courtmartial over the cloning of Skippy affair.) His diary states that after 12 AFC returned to the land of the Kiwi with their new mounts (Sopwith 2F3 Tempests) that the lack of replacement parts and the tripling of the rum ration contibuted heavily to the &#39;doctoring of the squadron records.&#39; Sad state that. I get all misty everytime I read that phrase&#39;...his scent is still in my nostrils, oh my beloved Skippy&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#39; In the end they never actually flew in combat only put the birds nose to tail along the runway edges and established a hobo jungle using the stripped carcasses of the Sopwith Tempests as living quarters. That is until the great spring flood of 1923 when the 64ft wash wiped the crates from existance...

Now back to the Purple Fokker D.VII types flown by the Purple Aces....

[StephenLawson]

Here&#39;s a bit of something interesting...The revised cover to the Purple Aces has a serial on the closest Fok. D.VII. It appears as &#39;VII 517&#39; thus I will have an excellent excuse to do another early Schwerin D.VII. But here is a further delema, Should I stick strickly to the book or go with the Aerodrome thread version?
G-8 & Purple Aces

Holy Purple Panties&#33; There&#39;s actually a precedent to all that insanity?&#33;? I can now tell my physician I don&#39;t need those pills&#33;

You&#39;d flatter all here if you chose the Aerodrome Thread version&#33;

And then could you do a Flying Vittles&#39; modified Super Brisfit, complete with bomb vats...preferably on that heroic morning when they wiped out the Purple Aces&#39; Dreaded Lair?

[Galloway]

Stephen,

You should Do Nippy Weston&#39;s Spad XIII #13 & Bull Martin&#39;s #7 too&#33; Now if I could only figure out how to scratch build the Death gas breathing bats in 1/48th scale????? Where do the Mercedes engines go? Sounds like fun though&#33; I remember not too long ago when I was 13 or so building the Revell 1/72nd scale Spad XIIIs in G-8s, Nippy&#39;s & Bull&#39;s markings Canary Yellow & all&#33;

Ken

[Michael]

G-8 Books

Definitely Putrid Purple over all. Pity Aurora&#39;s D-VII came in green plastic, as the purple of the ME-109 would have been a good base.