Upper wing camo of Görings Albatros D.V ?

[Steffen Arndt]

Hi All

First I must say that I'm new to this forum and I do apologize for all broken netiquette beforehand. Just point out what I did wrong and I'll don't do it again...

in medias res:

I just started WW I modelling as a diversion from WW II. It is a real fun to do some really colorful planes. I started with an impulse buy of the Roden 1/48 Fokker D.VII ( as I'm from Schwerin a good choice).



Now I have started Eduards Albatros D.V (Kit No. 8013) and I want to do Görings black and white plane. Unfortunately the Instruction sheet does not provide colour info. In my very small library (concerning WWI ) I only found one pic in Albatros aces (Osprey; Norman Franks et al.) and there I cannot make out the upper wing camo. Now my questions:


1. Is the brown green brown scheme correct for Görings plane?

2. Was this repeated on the lower wing?

3. What colours are the best match for these (I'd prefer Tamiya/Humbrol/Revell/Modellmaster as I can acquire these quite easily)

Many thanks in advance.

Steffen

Hi Steffen!
I'm not unsure that brown/green/brown scheme is correct. More realistic is mauve/green camo - I'm gave this scheme in RODEN's kit #032. If You saw new polish book "Kaisers Aces" (Kagero Press), same scheme presented in this book plus two chordwise strips on upper wing.
Alex.

[Steffen Arndt]

Hello Alex

Are you sure about the two stripes. In the Osprey is a profile of the quite similar Albatros D.III which had these stripes... <_<

BTW I&#39;ll buy this booklet as I like the other Kageros.

Many thanks

Steffen

OOPS&#33; D.III in this book, it"s my mistake... I"m saw Goering&#39;s D.V upper view, but where? Can&#39;t remember now.

[Steffen Arndt]

I&#39;ve scanned the instruction sheet to be clearer:




I plan to use RLM 65 for the underside and maybe (if the scheme is right) RLM 82 for the green but what to use for the brown (or should that be mauve ???)

To quote someone from the VVS site: Dulce et decorum est pro hobby mori

Steffen

[Terry_Crisp]

Stefan,
Welcome to the forum. It&#39;s a good group of folks here, with a great deal of mutual help.
The brown/ green/light green camo was changed after the early Alb DIIIs, Werner Voss&#39;s being among the last. Thereafter all the Alb wings were done in Mauve/ green in about a half dozen different patterns until the advent of lozenge fabric camo. Fortunately for you, Goerings D V is well documented and you can therefore use the correct pattern.
In addition to poring over photographs you can purchase a rendering from Dan-San Abbott that would save you considerable effort. The price is very reasonable and the work well researched. I have several in my collection and some are framed in my office. He can be reached via this forum and is unstinting in his willingness to assist others in this area of interest.
I am about to go out of town on business (again) but time permitting, I&#39;ll try to find the photos of the pattern you need.
Best regards,
Terry

[Steffen Arndt]

Hello Terry

many thanks for the warm welcome. As I&#39;m lurking some other forums I know that there are lots of possibilities to "drop a brick" ....

It&#39;s nice to hear that this machine is well documented. At the moment I would prefer a "cheap" solution for my problem -- read: a correct profile with color suggestions,

but I&#39;m also open to book or magazine suggestions. Maybe I can buy some of them or there is something in my model clubs archive...

many thanks again

viele Grüße aus Rostock (I&#39;m studying here)

Steffen

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Steffen:
Ltn. Hermann Göring&#39;s Alb.D.III wings were camouflaged in dark green, pale green and rust brown. Nose up ^ camouflage slopped indicated / or &#092; for top or bottom wings.
The upper wing pattern from the left, pale green to between the 5th and 6th ribs on the leading edge &#092; dark green to the first rib againt the right side of the central position radiator &#092; rust brown to the right wing tip.
On top of the upper wing at the center section are two parallel white chevrons, //&#092;&#092; the inner chevron 250 mm wide (full size), runs from the center of the wing /&#092; over the corners of the radiator and the inner edge to the 2cd rib at the trailing edge.(both sides of the center on top) The outer chevron starts 3rd rib from the center and end, also 250 mm and the inner edge ends on the 4th rib from the center-section, THE CHEVRONS ARE PARALLEL 250 mm apart.
Lower left wing camouflage. Left tip pale green to 2cd rib on the leading edge (l.e.) and to the 1th rib on the trailing edge/, rust brown to the 6th rib on the leading edge (t.e.)&#092; rust briown, dark green to the wing root.
Lower right wing camouflage. dark green from the wing root to the 5th rib on the l.e. to the 7th rib on the t.e.&#092; rust brown 11 1/2 rib from the root on the l.e. and to the 9 1/2 rib on the t.e. / pale green to the tip.
The under sides of the lower wing have black chevron, 250mm wide
/ &#092; starting at the root leading on the inner leading edge and ending on the 5th rib on the t.e.
A lso positioned on the outer edge of the 6th rib is a black 1, 900mm high x 120mm wide and the slope from the top 250 mm long and 60 mm wide, with small serifs, with the foot 200 mm. wide.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
A colored 6 view drawing is available @ &#036;10.00 plus P&H at 41.50 US and &#036;3.50 foriegn, On US orders checks OK, foriegn orders Internal M.O. or cash.

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Steffen:
On Oblt. Hermann Göring&#39;s Alb.D.V 1027/17, the camouflage was mauve (light violet) and dark green.
Upper wing, from the 7 3/4 rib from the the left tip, and the 91/2 rib on the t.e. dark green&#092;, mauve to between the 15th an 16th rin on the l.e. and the 17 1/2 rib on the t.e. &#092; dark green to the tip.
Lower left wing, mauve to the 6th rib on the l.e. and 8rib on the t.e. &#092; dark green to the root.
Lower right wing. mauve to the 6th rib on the l.e. to the 7 1/2 rib on the
t.e.&#092; dark green to the tip.
Under side of both wing sky blue.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

[Steffen Arndt]

Hello Dan

Many thanks for your in depth explanation but I&#39;m looking for the Albatros D.V camo&#33;&#33;

The D. III is covered in the osprey and although I generally do not trust these booklets, I consider the authors (Franks et al.) as highly competent in the field of WW 1. Unfortunately there is no profile of the D.V in this publication.

The instructions of eduard seem rather odd in terms of colour.

Especially I&#39;m interested in what coulours to use for my model.

Thanks again

regards

Steffen