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Old 7 February 2005, 02:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Seat Belts

I guess this could be a thread on the "Aircraft " subject. But so many modellers install seat belts, I thought I might get a better answer here.

Did WWI a/c have seat belts...seat belts and shoulder harasses..none.

And to what in the a/c were these devises anchored?
 
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Early in the war the aicraft were equipped seat belts of some form. I think that four way seat belt/shoulder harness became standard by late 1916 on both sides. The French had a very good with a quick release. The British Sutton harness were four straps, one had a locking cone with an eye for the locking pin. Three of the straps would be placed over cone. and the pin would be inserted locking all the straps on the cone. The adjustment was the three straps had a series of grommets spaced about 2 inches apart.
Germany had the same locking setup which were steel plate tabs, one had the same type of locking cone and pin. THese four plates were riveted to the ends of the four, 50 mm wide hemp webbing straps. The other three had a hole near the end of the tab. The cone belt was the generally the left seat belt, the other three tabs were placed on the cone and secured with the locking pin. On both the British Sutton Harness and the German harnesses, when the pin was pulled all the straps were free and the pilot could get out of the cockpit. The Sutton Harness was used in WW2.
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Did they adjust or one size fits all ?
 
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British ones must have been adjustable or little chaps like Taffy would have fallen out!
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Hey Ginger didn't the Brits just use bubble gum on the seat of their pants or does "sticky wicket" mean somethin else?
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Did they adjust or one size fits all ?
Hi Topgun56,

AFAIK, many of them are adjustable. Take a look on the Memorial Flight Association website and you'll find a lot of pictures that'll show you how they are adjustable.

Hope this is help.

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Seatbelt/shoulder harness adjustable?

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The British Sutton Harness had grommets about every two inches or so set in the length of the straps which provided infinite range of adjustment.
The French and German harnesses use slide adjusters to adjust the length of the straps.
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What in that wooden frame were they anchored to ? In just a car chase the bolts of a seat belt can pull thru steel plate.
 
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Philippe ,what is the web address of this association? Cheers! John.
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Philippe ,what is the web address of this association? Cheers! John.
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You 'll find it here .

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