MODELMASTER BRITSH DARK GREEN vs FOKKER FACTORY OLIVE GREEN

[mgtaylor]

To the Moderators and Long Time members and Posters, my apologies. I am not trying to take advantage of this board to flood it with senseless plugs. I beg your patenice. I am trying to get the word out to the average WWI ACFT Modeller.

I am wondering how many of those who are on this board and building kits right now would use say ModelMaster British Dark Green to simulate the Color for a DRI streaked camo?

Would you say use PollyScale French Beige to simulate the color for the clear doped undersides of a British Camel?

Like wise would you prefer to use Pollyscale Brown Drab to simulate British PC12 Dope for the same Camel?

Or would you consider trying for the DRI :
GC06 FOKKER OLIVE GREEN over GC10 GERMAN CLEAR DOPED LINEN with GC09 GERMAN SKY BLUE undersides?

Or for the Camel :
BC02 PC-12 and BC05 BRITISH CLEAR DOPED LINEN with BC07 ROUNDEL RED & BC08 ROUNDEL BLUE?

There are no major Model Paint Manufactuers who have produced a Line of WWI ACFT Colors. They have had YEARS to do it?

However THERE IS an Italian Aftermarket Manufactuer who has produced a Line of WWI ACFT Colors specific to nationality and in some cases even branch of service years ago and has been successfully selling them overseas.

MISTERKIT's WWI ACFT COLORS have made mention in the OCT 2005 Fine Scale Modeler's issue with the Cutaway F105 on the Cover on pg.s 13/24 & 77.

They may well also be featured in the SEPT issue of SCALE AIRCRAFT MODELLING.

The COLORS ARE ALL "IN STOCK" NOW and available for Direct Mail Order Sales from a fellow WWI ACFT Modeller .

At least give them a try?

http://www.misterkitusa.com

[Ross_Moorhouse]

I have some of these paints. Misterkit I mean. My only complaint about them is that the bottles are not always filled to the same level. Tamiya state on their bottle how much paint is in there. Get misterkit to improve in this area and I would buy more.

[mgtaylor]

Dear Ross
If those bottles came from me I would be happy to exchange them for you. I have the entire line in Stock and thru my inventories I can assure you what I have been properly filled. I will pass your concern on to Italy however and suggest to them their next labels include the Fluid Oz. Proir to importing these for myself there had been some very OLD stock which had been sold and resold between retailers who hadn't been able to sell them locally. I myself can't speak for that product. I know what I have just recieved from Italy and there are ALL fine. I am very Glad however that you do you like the Colors themselves. If there are any I can send you so that you can see for yourself the company is still producing them and doing well and I would be glad to?

[Dan_San_Abbott]

mgtaylor:
Does Misterkit have a color chart? Before buying, I want to see the color! If so, please mail a color chart to:
Dan-San Abbott
1800 STone Cress Court
Ceres, Ca 95307
USA
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Just a thought Mr Abbott, but is it possible there was a clerical error in the German report? Brun is not that far from grun. Having been caught up in many clerical errors during my long and varied office career, I have no problem imagining this.

Brian da Basher

[mgtaylor]

Dear Dan
Much respect for your self taught expertise & years of reserch on German Camo and ACFT Colors. Your Career has been facinating.

As I mention at the web site that I do Not have a pre-printed Color Chip chart at this time. There a total of 66 Colors. 21 German colors alone as well as Autro-Hungarian, Italian, French, British, Russian and even a few USA WWI Camo colors.

As I mentioned at the site as well I pledged to paint, photograph and post Color Chips as soon as possible. It is a duanting task at first which requires some ground work on my part such as a new work hobby area for me to spray in. As for now the Colors are pretty much self explanitory as thier names suggest. As well at the moment thier cost for even just a few colors which often is enough for a project is not at all so expensive so as to be such a huge risk?

As it may well take me some time to polish the site and post these chips, in the meantime in deference to your experience please order yourself a sample of a few colors. If your not happy with them for any reason please return them and I will refund them to you at no cost.

These paints are of greater value to an average modeler who might not have the resources or skills you may have to mix and match colors close enough to the actual shades of these aircraft making it much easier and simpler not only to finsha project but also encourage completeing several more.

As you are well aware there are several WWI ACFT CAMO colors which are often hottly contested and debated. An expert such as yourself often leading the discussions.

I also wish I had a preview of the quality of the DVIII Color Profile prints you offered for sale and I bought three of @ $10.00 a piece. I mistakenly assumed they would be of a framable quaility at least printed on the most basic of Glossy Photo Print Papers and a decent printer, perhaps even a laserjet? The Colors & patterns of the Profiles you sent were adequate however the Dot Matrix print on plain copy paper lead the colors to bleed, fade and slightly blur as the wet inks must have dried and been absorbed by the paper? I had meant to return them myself to you with a few pages of Photo Print Paper in order to ask you to print them over for me.

Iam afraid the thought got lost as I got tied up with other projects and it had taken SO long for you to send me the prints in the first place after I had originally requested them and sent you payment. I was later however able to aquire the Four Color Wood Stains from Austria for used for that wing. I have a Glenn Torrence Kit to apply them to. Again as time and events will allow me to give it the attention it requires.

I still didn't receive the Profile I had hoped for and originaly requested of the DVIII with the elongated Fuselage National White Band insignia featured in the WindSock Data files. I still very much would like to obtain that one from you if you have it? I had spent at least as much on the Datafile itself with very limited and in some areas in correct colors which I rationized would be worth your price to have the profile I needed in Color?

I have been on a family responsibity imposed hiatus from building for a good while now. I am still very much exicted by the hobby and have aquire a huge number of projects to get going on. The exictment of the anticpation of breaking into my personal private hobby store worth of kits and accessoires bloggles my mind. In the meantime I very much would like to see this area of our hobby WWI ACFT Modeling get the attention, respect and products it deserves. Like a line of Colors FOR WWI ACFT, more detailed, varied, rare and larger scale releases. Such as the wonderfull releases that have been trickling out like the Battle AXE series, Hooby Craft retoolings, New Brass PE Detail kits, Roden and Special Hobby's upcoming releases.

These are exicting and important kit releases in this era. As WWI Modeling enthusiasts we deserve a line of Colors already mixed for thsese ACFT easily available off the shelf. We shouldn't have to be forced to be Stymied and left perplexed staring at the Testors and/or ModelMaster racks at our LHO scratching our heads wondering what exactly might match Clear Doped Linen?
Any improvement in this area is a break though. Iam not hawking a cheap line of Acrylic Colors thrown together at someone's whim and passed off as a legitimate paint. This Line of Colors was developed years ago and has been quite successful overseas with modelers in Europe. Often common and well used products are unable to cross cultural barriers becuase no one takes the time and effort to bring them out.

I am simply saying try a few of these colors for yourself? Especially WHY not if you must have already attempted one of the many other color mixes and matches as subsitutes for WWI ACFT colors made from your own choices of WWII and/or modern Jet acft color paints???

http://www.misterkitusa.com/

[Dan_San_Abbott]

CaptKitBasher:
In the PC10 formula, the two pigment ingredients are iron oxide and carbon black will only produce brown. Les Rogers in his magnificent book, (Coffee table quality) "British Aviation Squadron Markings in World War 1" page 18 gives the formula. Also if it were olive green, they would stated olivgrun. Sorry, Brian it is really brown.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

[Kitboy]

Hello,

Can anyone tell me if these paints can me bought somewhere in Europe. Preferably as close as possible to Holland?

Greetings, Nico Teunissen

[mgtaylor]

Bought in Holland ?, Yes. You'd have to order thru Misterkits Italian Web Site. there is a link to his site thru http://www.misterkitusa.com/ on the main index page.

Mike

[mgtaylor]

I realize many of you may be very well Hesitant to try a new Product or "trust" a web based Mail Order Site. However this product has been around for many years and IS a great product. I honestly believe you WILL like it and later find it invaluable for completeing and finishing your many WWI ACFT Projects.

I have given it some thought and I am willing to do anything that is possible for me to facillate your support. As an Introductry offer to try these paints for yourself and for supporting their US Distribution, If you mention this message board to me with your Order I will afford you the following Offers:

A) INTRO OFFER 4 colors /or jars for $10.00 incl shipping. (Normaly $11.20 + $3.85 Ship= $15.05 total incl shipping)
OR
B) For ANY Number of Colors/Jars @ $2.80 a piece Total (No Cost For Shipping)

Any previous customers are welcome to enjoy the same one time offer. I do not have a Color Chip Chart as yet. However if you've already been building and Painting your models with mix and matched Colors from the LHS Paint Racks you will Find the Colors Names are very familar with what you've wanted / needed and pretty much self explanitory so a COlor Chart wouldn't be necessary for you.

Mike

C'om ON Fella's ! Give 'em a Try Now !
Make your choices , I am standing by to fill your Order ?