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Old 28 August 2006, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lloyd C.V Kit top wing gap

I am just in the process of setting out on the Special Hobby Lloyd C.v kit.The top wing is supplied in one piece, BUT in the not to very good instructions it apppears that you have to cut a 2mm gap in the centre, cutting the wing in two pieces.
Can anyone with the book on Austrian Army Aircraft or anyone who has done this kit tell me if this is correct.The above wing M.G sits in the spot so I figure the gap is in relation to this.
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Old 28 August 2006, 11:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have the book you mention. But my understanding is that yes the top wing is in 2 parts with the real thing. I would use brass rod to pin the wings. this will give strength to that area.
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Hi Graham,
I have just completed the 1/72nd kit of this aircraft and as per various photos and diagrams in the book "Austo Hugarian Aircraft of WW1" the top wing does need to be split and left with a slight gap.I achieved this using Struz material.Don't forget that this aircraft had veenered wings not CDL.I was very pleased with the detail and fit of the kit and it works out to be a very attractive model..
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I have the 1/48 version(old eyes). Thanks for ther info,can you post a picture of it.The quality of the kit is great but the instructions are a little sparse.

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Old 29 August 2006, 04:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Lloyd C.V

gsoutham,

Howdy. I have the two excellent books on the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

#1 - 'AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN ARMY AIRCRAFT OF WORLD WAR ONE'; By Peter M. Grosz, George Haddow & Peter Schiemer'

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#2 - 'AIR ACES OF THE AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN EMPIRE 1914-1918'; By Dr. Martin O'Connor

As has been said, there is a gap between the two sections of the upper wing. But most of the photos are not very clear. The Type II VK gun canister always seem to block the view. But in #1 on page 332 and #2 on page 167 there are to clear potographs showing the gap. I also discovered that there were there different production batches. Lloyd Production - Series 46, 185 hp Daimler, Series 46.5, 220 hp Benz (Mar), and WKF Production - Series 82, 220 Benz (Mar).

Of the 49 Aces of the Empire I could only find one who claimed a victory flying the Lloyd C.V, Roman Schmidt (6 victories). He scored his third victory in Lloyd C.V 46.01 as the observer. His opponent is described as a Russian 'Sopwith fighter'. (His final three victories were as a single seat pilot.)

There is an illustration in #1 of Lloyd C.V 46.30, Flik 53/D, Spring 1918. The description reads:

"This aircraft was delivered in September 1917 with autumn leaf mottle camouflage applied to the upper surfaces by sequentially splotching the surface with saturated sponges or rags, usually in the order Mustard Yellow 4B6, Terra Cotta 7D7, and Medium Green 27E8. The underwing Type B crosses have shite borders to make them visble against the dark veneer wing surface."

I hope this helps. The research was a lot of fun and I learned some things I hadn't known before. Please post a photo of your effort when it's completed.

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Old 29 August 2006, 11:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Moggie thanks for the info, I am going to have to get a copy of the book.I have a preference for the earlier M.G mounting.Well I will have to cut the wing.
Again thanks
Graham
 
 

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