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Old 10 February 2008, 02:40 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Hi Brad,

There is no reason why a good modeller encounters some problems with a good kit... That happens, simply...

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Old 10 February 2008, 08:22 AM   #32 (permalink)
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What a bad luck! But things like that happen. Keep on going. This model is worth it . I feel with you.

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Old 10 February 2008, 01:26 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well folks, I have officially registered major disaster number two with this kit (this is a new personal best for me...).

As I wanted to try and keep it all close to OOB I decided to ditch my usual turn buckle "rig after the wing is on" process and rig prior to attachment of the upper wing (ie glue the rigging to the top of the struts - this has worked will for me in 1/72 scale). Rigging and installation all seemed to go well. I come back to the model a few hours later and notice that a combination of slightly too much tension and some very long and thin inerplane struts has caused one of the interplane struts to snap, leaving the model looking slightly worse for wear and the top wing pulled to one side. Desperate attempts to remedy the situation and re-join the busted strut led to a number of the other struts popping out of place - more desperately applied blobs of superglue assisted me in fighting a valiant rear guard action but the inevitable crunch of mass structural failure could not be averted.

Dang.

I literally was mid throw when I gathered the good sense to not send the W4 flying. Damage report - all interplane struts pulled, one snapped strut, some pulled lozenge decal from around the strut and rigging attachment locations, but worst of all, some very ugly blobs of glue on the bottom of the upper wing which will essentially require sanding and a repaint of the bottom of the upper wing.

Dang again.

It's not that it is a bad kit. It is in fact a very good kit. Which is why I keep getting surprised by these disasters. It's not that I am a bad modeller - at least I don't think so (I reckon I have a reasonable idea on these biplane things having build about 10 of em). I am not doing anything differently this time than I have done any other time... Its just that a higher power somewhere has decided to test me with this kit (maybe as punishment for not having any major disasters before).

Alas, I am determined moreso to not let this kit beat me....! Stay tuned folks, as these things tend to happen in three's....

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Greetings Brad!

Seriously I have been there. You may remember my not so toungue-in -cheek text on The Laws of Modeling? Here is a bit that I am sure you are now more familar with.

" . . .Rule #17.) Tossing a semi-finished or finished , expensive or highly detailed model kit against the furthest wall in your basement at 90mph is the most sincerest form of self-criticism. But doesn't live up to the acclaimed rush that is supposed to follow. . ."

This too shall pass. Everyone who builds models hits this bump in the road. You will set it aside go to the pub, watch a sunset, walk on the beach or go for a walkabout. In the end you will come back to it and it will bend to your will. To your satisfaction no doubt. Remind me to tell you about a Hanriot HD.1 sometime. But for now (he says pulling out his pocket watch from his waist coat) I'm late I'm late for a very important date no time to say hello - goodbye I'm late, I'm late, I'm late!!!

Off to see my new grandaughter!
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Old 10 February 2008, 01:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Woho! Welcome to the world of us mortals Brad! (meant in the nicest possible way)

I understand exactly what you mean. Those interplane struts are VERY fine and fragile.

Yes, it is a great kit, and your build is sensational and worth persisting with. Hey, if I can keep moral after 8 months on an apparently simple modified Roden BE2c, then you can keep up Moral on this one.

It will be worth it in the end, I promise... (As I keep telling my wife each time she hears me swearing!)

Cheers,

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Old 11 February 2008, 12:50 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I am truly sorry for this, Brad... I hope you will not give it up!
Let me be so bold to advice something. Try carving wooden struts. Wood is much better than plastic concerning buckling strength. W.4 has terribly slender struts, they are longer than in D.II and I suppose plastic may be problematic. Also, try considering some different material for rigging. I suppose you used fishing line. If so, it is worth to change it for elastic thread. It has much lower elasticity modulus and requires smaller force to tighten, hence smaller load on struts.
I am sorry if I speak obvious things, but I just wanted to help.
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Old 11 February 2008, 02:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Thanks for the encouragement and tips guys

After a couple of hours tonight I managed to patch the lozenge, fix the busted strut, sand back the lower surface of the top wing and repaint...

sigh

Highslide JS

Ok, now I am back to where I was about a week ago!!!

I won't let this thing beat me...

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Old 11 February 2008, 02:51 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 11 February 2008, 03:10 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Damn you do nice rib tapes!

Keep going Brad, this is looking like another classic Brad Cancian Work of Art!

What does not kill us, makes us stronger!

I am looking forawrd to seeing this one in the flesh at Melbourne in June!

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Old 11 February 2008, 03:15 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 11 February 2008, 08:30 AM   #40 (permalink)
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