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Old 14 July 2003, 11:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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'...It has been reported that shares in DML Fokkers have hit rock bottom after the announcement of Rodens ones.
Stephen.. SELL SELL SELL!!! * *
No, no, no Ross! Bad business wot! Buy low and sell high thats the ticket! If the Aurora D.VII commaned 40-80 USD at one time Just think what the future holds for the DML early von Büren versions or the Udet w/bust versions. Collectors will flock to my doors and I make them pay dearly for their short sighted foolishness! I'll corner the market I'll rule the world!!!!! OOps ...sorry folks it was my evil twin...just a second...Back Igor back into your cage man!!! {Insert the sound of a cracking whip here!}
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Old 14 July 2003, 11:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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How can Roden offer a kit at a reasonable price while DML and Eduard are so expensive?
I think there are two (or even more) reasons.

First, the wages are very low in Ukrania. So, development and production of the kits are less expensive.

Additionally low wages result in much lower prices for tool making (moulds). The material for the moulds is not the big problem. Its the money for the workers making the various moulds.

Just an idea...
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Old 15 July 2003, 04:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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How can Roden offer a kit at a reasonable price while DML and Eduard are so expensive?
I believe that DML uses the photo-etch parts to justify (!) the higher prices... However i do not think that the Eduard kits are so expensive... *Considering the price and the QUALITY of Eduard kits, those have perfect prices... *I am very glad about that initiative of Roden to add more and more 1/48 WW1 kits to their range, but I do not believe that the Roden's Fokker D.VII would be so well done if it was made by Eduard... :

I just hope that new kit does not mean an abort to a possible future Eduard's D.VII... :-[ :-[
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I find the DML P.E. for the struts really a bad move. They don't look like the real thing and are very thin. I will be glad when my brass Struts get here from Aeroclub.
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No, no, no Ross! Bad business wot! Buy low and sell high thats the ticket! If the Aurora D.VII commaned 40-80 USD at one time Just think what the future holds for the DML early von Büren versions or the Udet w/bust versions. Collectors will flock to my doors and I make them pay dearly for their short sighted foolishness! I'll corner the market I'll rule the world!!!!! * * OOps ...sorry folks it was my evil twin...just a second...Back Igor back into your cage man!!! {Insert the sound of a cracking whip here!}
Sorry mate. The bottom of the DML Fokker market just dropped out. Labour costs in the other former USSR countries have now ruined the market for DML kits. *
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I hope they (Roden) do a good of it, and not a fast and mediocre.

The 1/72 DVII series was a good way to start, with excellent choice of subject let down by the problems of fit and scale (fuselage length and width etc). I had hoped for well fitting kits to do a whole lot of DVIIs but I´m still struggling with the Berthold machine, having thinned and shortened and finally closed the fuse.
It now awaits the struts. I hope they fit better.

Their Albatros series has some similar problems with basic fit as well.
What´s the use of doing fine detail when you destroy some of it trying to get things to fit together cleanly. And Roden are not that inexpensive at all, even here in germoney.

If Revells new DR1 looks good maybe they do a new good fitting fast building DVII as well. One would be able to to lots of the Roden decal schemes then without all this hassle.

Manfred, who supports Roden but thinks fit problems of kits are an anachronism of the sixties.
That way you don´t attract any newcomers to modelling, too.
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I have the clear part Roden 48th Strutter and the fuselage halfs are like bannanas they are that bent. I am glad that they have learnt their lession about this plastic as the Comic Strutter is now their standard grey plastic.
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Greetings Gentlemen,
I am delighted to see that someone is filling this crater in the model market. I just hope Roden has the simple good sense to make the engine cowlings separate pieces so one can have a choice of manufacturers.
It is a good bet though that they will go with a different fuselage for each subcontractor. I will be satisfied with either as long as they don't simply ignore the louvers like the did on the 1/72. What a waste of an OK, which is not to say good model kit.
I have yet to find time to scratch build masters with all those tiny louvers.
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I wonder if Part will come to the party with their great P.E. sets and do one for the Roden D.VIIs? That may the mean that the correct louvers are supplied with the P.E. set. Heres hoping.
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