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20 April 2003, 05:36 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Greetings all:
This course of query is set for the fanatics of the 3 dimensional images we call Large Format Dioramas.
I propose we prattle the pitfalls and praises of such leviathan laiden endeavours. *Most of you are familiar with the piece on the Zeppelin Staaken R.VI 31/16 titled 'Projeckt Reisenflugzeug II.' *I have often wondered as many of you likely have, at the sanity of the builder.
http://www.darkmatterinc.tv/rmipms/images/...aaken_color.jpg
http://www.darkmatterinc.tv/rmipms/ZepplinRVI.htm
For those of you considering large dioramas there are considerations that you should deal with before beginning. *For 'Shirley' it will set to break your back, spirit and wallet should you loose heart in the task mid stride.
On the real Aircraft title 'Jasta with the most different a/c at the same time.'
Jasta with most different a/c at the same time?
Consider this as the secret desire for everybuilder. *To build a diorama that depicts a day in the life of a Jasta or Squadron.
Pop Quiz: What is the usual or common method for reading a diorama ?
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21 April 2003, 06:15 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Greetings all: *Answer to the Pop quiz, what is the usual or common method for reading a diorama ? *From a very early age most of us are taught to read left to right. Thats how we perceive most images we view. *The result is that the strongest dioramas tend to have most of the action either dead center or to the right of center. strongest area being the focal point.
The large scale diorama as mentioned previously has its pitfalls. For Shirley it will break your...
1. Back
2. Wallet
3. Spirit
Back: *Remember your going to have to move this *chunk of base board where ever it is to be displayed. *Plan for its transport before you start.
Wallet: Count the cost before you build the house. Facing facts many of us are not rich. *What are you willing to put into the project? After all time is money.
Spirit: Building a scene based on a photograph is a good start, but remember that life is ever changing and moving. *Artistic license is warranted in many cases. *Particularly when using a multilayered series of actions to tell a story. When an aircraft lands from a sortie or mission and has to go right back up again it may be refueled, rearmed and repaired right where it came to rest. Now how about carrying the wounded pilot away with a new pilot receiving instructions a few yards away. *The title simply being... This is your machine.'
Pop Quiz: Is the scene described above plausible?
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22 April 2003, 12:22 AM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Here's a diorama from another thread. Residing in the Deutsches Museum
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24 April 2003, 07:47 AM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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One further note, You might want to have several possibilities where your piece will or can be displayed other than a contest. *Museums. Hobby Shops, Libraries, Air shows, airports, private or permanent hangars where real aircraft are housed and repaired, *Aviation tech schools, Corporate headquarters Like Aviation Publishing co., Aviation Specialty shops book stores or etc. Finding a permanent home is not difficult if its well done. *The first place my Staaken Diorama went on display was the U.S. Airforce Academy in Colorado Springs. It has been on temporary loan to the Wings Over the Rockies *Aviation Museum for 4 years. If you do a club sponsored contest entry the post contest and ultimate location should be established first and one person should be in charge of its disposition. This person would then answer to the club.
While there is more on the topic it can all be gleaned from Shep Paynes great work. *How to build Dioramas. Verlinden has great scenes and ideas. Don't discard any possibilities.
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11 November 2003, 07:59 AM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Yep! No final exam on this one you'll have to figure that some modelers will spend the better part of 1-3 years working on their dream dio.
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12 November 2003, 05:48 AM
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What scale is that Dio in the Deutches Museum?
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12 November 2003, 06:08 AM
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Hi,
Anyone ever seen any other examples of such diorama's other then the ones from Stephen and the one at Berlin ?
As I'm about to build the whole eastern side of the Jabbeke aerodrome on 1/72, I already have the planes, or am constructing them.
However ! I'm starting soon with the construction of a number of hangars, and as I have lots of photo's from the Jabbeke aerodrome, this is no problem at all, but I'm looking for more ideas to make it really interesting. There will be some bunkers on it, a AA post, a repair shop in a farm, the guard house, some trucks, cars, personnel,...
Best from Johan
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12 November 2003, 06:26 AM
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What scale is that Dio in the Deutches Museum?
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I hope this is in reference to that diorama:
" Dioramas in Museums do have perspective (?Oh, my english!), the scales differ from front to back. The Deutsches Museum f.e. does have a Jasta 5 airfield. The Albatroses starts with 1/50 scale in front, the back shows 1/100 scale a/c. The same with the swiss training ground diorama in the Verkehrshaus in Luzern /Switzerland. The Hanriots get smaller, the farer they are."
http://www.wwi-models.org/mail-archive/arc...chive.2001/3116
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12 November 2003, 06:46 AM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Johan,
I just found this:
Diorama composed of 11 airplanes (including 3 inside hangar!),about 45 figures, 3 dogs, 7 birds, 2 trucks, 1 bicycle, 1 motorcycle with sidecar. (Don't miss the Victrola in the hangar!)
http://members.aol.com/karrart/avart/gal11/work28.htm
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12 November 2003, 07:37 AM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Greetings all: The idea of using descending scales is called 'forced perspective.'
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