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9 September 2002, 10:18 AM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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...Hi All; I'm not sure about "The OD Approach" but it does remind me of "The Old Dragon", the Good Herr Doktor Von Humbrol's favourite English Pub and the site of the Good Herr Doktor's first meeting with Dymphna following the Oxbridge Boat races in 1924...Ah those were the days....Neil E...PS Stephen - "The Olive Drab Approach"? ...Yes?
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Actually Neil_E the correct title is 'Ye Olde Worm' Tavern, Bed and Breakfast. Recited in story and song as being near Ye Olde HRH Jousting Fields at the high end of Sheepsides. The name Dragon of course was the Anglicanized version.
Concerning the Olive Drab query...I may have to rethink your A+. :
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10 September 2002, 11:14 AM
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Build, build, and keep building. The more models, the better. But first build a big closet.
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10 September 2002, 01:21 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Model Building...absence excused. 
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11 September 2002, 02:53 AM
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The order has been placed for an Eduard Eindecker and a Pegasus DH-2. Should be interesting.... 
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15 September 2002, 07:02 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Greetings fellow devotees, enthusiasts and modelers.
The answer to the Pop Quiz: What is the O&D approach? = Organizational and Development Approach to modeling is the program that a modeler takes when building for specific reasons.
One fellow may want to build all of the aircraft flown by Ernst Udet. Another may want to do Albatros 'D' type fighters that were in a specific Jasta or Jagdgeschwader. These themes establish a program that allows the modeler to build similar models with color or type variations.
The problem with this type of approach is that the time it takes to do the research often put the desire accomplish the task to sleep. The key is to keep the tasks simple. Painting skills, detailing, diorama ideas or rigging are better accomplished by focusing on one kit for one subject. Start with the skills you excel at and then stretch your abilities by adding a task to the next build. As you develop the skills to add to the build, your individual pieces start taking on the look of well built kits.
Example:
1st kit, erase all unwanted seams.
2nd kit, erase all seams, do a single color scheme i.e. Pfalz D. III or Nieuport 17.
3rd kit, erase all seams, do a multicolored sheme.
4th kit, erase all seams, do a multi colored scheme with unique decal markings.
5th kit, erase all seams, multi colored scheme with unique markings and complete all rigging.
6th kit, erase all seams, ....rigging and complete engine.
Hopefully this will allow you to develop at your own speed but with an approach that keeps AMS at bay.
Pop Quiz: What is the single most important factor in a Static Impession?
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16 September 2002, 05:14 AM
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Okay Steve,
I guess you mean a "static impression"? This could mean a number of things - a model in which limited highlighting etc, leaves the model dead and toylike almost in its finish.
I guess it could also be some sort of oblique diorama reference or better still, a model finished as an object in itself - an unposed model, built as a static replica of the original.
Or to quote Revellus of Padua:
"Est un fortius octus cloaca charitorum lookum vi æ cloaca charitorum non matterus whereus putum est"
(roughly translated as: "My 1/48 dungcart looks like a dungcart no matter where I put it")
Hmm...profound words indeed from Revellus of Padua expounding what is a hard creed in this modern era. That is a model should be what its meant to be, no matter what else is done to dress it up - effects, dioramas etc etc.
All the Best
Neil
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16 September 2002, 07:39 AM
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Stephen,
>Pop Quiz: What is the single most important
>factor in a Static Impession?
IMO a correctly aligned undercarriage.
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16 September 2002, 12:07 PM
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Stephen,
>Pop Quiz: What is the single most important
>factor in a Static Impession?
IMO a correctly aligned undercarriage.
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The correct "sit" certainly does go a long way towards creating the illusion. It is essential to create the impression of lightness. A Nieuport 11, for instance, looks like it would float away if it wasn't tied down and a model should reflect that. One or two millimetres here or there frankly doesn't matter nearly so much.
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16 September 2002, 01:21 PM
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Peter,
>One or two millimetres here or there frankly
>doesn't matter nearly so much.
Get the undercarriage slightly out so that the wings arent parallel to the ground and it destroys the effect totally. It goes from a replica of living history to a ham fistedly built plastic kit. I agree with what you wrote about the feel of the "sit", the Roden DVII I did from behind has the right sit for a DVII, helps the illusion greatly.
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16 September 2002, 05:46 PM
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Hi All
In a static biplane model, I think wing alignment is also pretty crucial. Both top/bottom wing and tailplane also. If these are crooked or slightly wrong this often catches the eye of the viewer immediately (in a similar way to undercarts IMHO). For later period aircraft I think cockpit framing is also crucial to get right.
Though, thinking about undercarts, you can sometimes see pictures of aircraft with undercarts that seem to be off true. Sometimes this may be a product of the ground the subject sits on, but I think I've seen one or two crooked ones too. (still this is no excuse for creating crooked undercarriages.
One thing I did with one of mine that was crooked once was to build a diorama base with an uneven surface - no one picked that the undercarrage was out - it looked like it was due to the rough terrain.
Worked a treat!
All the Best
Neil
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