Eduard 1/48 Fokker Dr.I - Page 10

Brad Cancian · 16 May 2008, 10:28 PM

Hello Frentzen - fair point

But to keep the discussion balanced, your arguement can be easly flipped around the other way - ie release the normal boxings first, make it financially accessible to all, then go for the high priced boxings, however Eduard clearly have decided to go the other way for marketing purposes, which in my mind is a little egotistical.

All I am saying is that alot of regular modelers, who don't have a huge budget, have been waiting literally years for this kit to appear. Now, because Eduard decides to market it in a particular way, it is being kept out of reach of modelers on a budget for even longer until Eduard decide to release the cheaper versions. Whilst I don't want to get in to an ethical discussion here about "poor vs rich modeler marketing", I just happen to think that marketing these editions first at a high price, and making people pay the extra money to buy one of these early editions, only buys you a slice of Eduard's ego.

Don't get me wrong, Eduard makes very nice kits, but Eduard's ego and marketing tactics are just starting to bug me - perhaps my opinion is only limited to myself, in which case I apologise if I have offended.

As Frentzen points out, eventually the cheaper boxings will be released, at that point I may consider getting hold of one, depending on the reviews. In the mean time, I am going to let my wallet do the talking and not buy one just yet.

BC

Frentzen · 16 May 2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Cancian

Don't get me wrong, Eduard makes very nice kits, but Eduard's ego and marketing tactics are just starting to bug me - perhaps my opinion is only limited to myself, in which case I apologise if I have offended.

BC

Brad,

I've taken no offense to what you've said and I would probably agree with you 100% if Eduard made every initial release the Royal version. Actually they seem to be all over the place when it come to initial releases. The D.VII was a Dual Combo, the Bf-110 was just a regular release, and now the Dr.I is a Royal. I guess it really could be a lot worse. They could be like Dragon with their armor releases. They start with a good kit, then add more etch and new parts to the box. Then they retool to add never before known details, amazingly only ever discovered by them. Then comes the 3 in 1 kit followed by a Smart Kit. And then after you've bought the same kit four times, they release it with zimmerit.

Dan

Kalt · 16 May 2008, 11:17 PM

I fully agree with you Brad and someone can explain me which are the inaccuracies of the Dragon Fokker Dr.1?

Cheers,

Claudio

StephenLawson · 16 May 2008, 11:21 PM

Brad the reason Edaurd does what they do with releases, is to keep us from anticipating their next move. We automatically asume that they will release the Dr.I kit in a Weekend Edition. But when? Let us look at when they started to release the Nieuport, Hanriot, Pfalz and Roland C.II Weekend Edition kits. It was years after their initial releases. The Camel has still not seen one. Even the Fok. D.VII "Weekend Edition" is not expected for some time. People have talked about the Fokker D.VII "Weekend Edition" that has yet to manifest.

They may surprise us and do the Fok. Dr.I "Weekend Edition" kit very soon but it just doesn't seem to be in the Eduard mystic wizard's release plan.

Frentzen · 16 May 2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StephenLawson

But when? Let us look at when they started to release the Nieuport, Hanriot, Pfalz and Roland C.II Weekend Edition kits. It was years after their initial releases. The Camel has still not seen one. Even the Fok. D.VII "Weekend Edition" is not expected for some time.

Those probably aren't the best examples to cite. None of them were ever released as Royals or even Dual Combos (though I may be wrong on the DC). Just Profi and regular kits. The Weekends only came along so much later because it was a new concept. Besides that, the difference in price between these kits, including the Camel, and the WE is only about $8 anyway. Not really enough money to stop someone from buying a regular kit in anticipation of the WE.

Granted, the price on regular boxings of the D.VII is fairly high (about $30), but I suspect that is due to the popularity of the subject as compared to a Hanriot. Popularity may also factor into why the Camel hasn't shown up as a WE yet. The more mainstream the subject may account for the delay of the WE kits. The regular kits probably still sell well.

Brad Cancian · 17 May 2008, 05:03 AM

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Brad the reason Edaurd does what they do with releases, is to keep us from anticipating their next move.

Hello Stephen - didn't realise we were playing a game of chess where the idea is to keep the customer guessing! ....

Whatever Eduard's reason is, I am sure they have a business department telling them what modellers want. I for one will wait. Let me know how the kit works out

BC

trackpad · 17 May 2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Cancian

Whatever Eduard's reason is, I am sure they have a business department telling them what modellers want.
BC

I'm an average modeller. I have two Dragon Dr.I's in my "to do" pile, and all I wanted from Eduard was a noticeably improved triplane to beat up. Eduard's business department, on the other hand, tells me that, if I want it now, I need three kits (two of which I DON'T need!), a PE fret, more decals than I can ever use on the provided models, two resin figures (plus Moritz!), a resin PLM lapel pin, and a resin PLM replica. Too much aftermarket insertion, not enough customer consideration.

Grand. All I want (see above) is a G--D-- triplane to build! And I have two right now that are not all that shabby. So I'll wait them out: as noted earlier, I've got more than enough styrene to keep me busy and happy!

nigelrayner · 17 May 2008, 07:16 AM

Well, Eduard's marketing worked on me. I gave up building 1/48 years ago and just stuck to 1/72. But when this kit came out I got it because of the figures, which I am assuming will only be in the special releases. That tipped me back into forking out nearly 40 GBP for a 1/48 kit. Had they just released the DrI, I wouldn't have bothered, nice though the kit may be. I'm sure they will release the DrI on its own at some stage. They will probably put the figures out on their own as well some time down the line just to annoy me, but after all they are in this game to make money.

The 1136X kit seems silly though. 2 DrIs and an Albatros? With two figures? What a weird combination.

Cheers,

Nigel

bobs_buckles · 17 May 2008, 07:58 AM

Nigel,
Where in the UK have you bought the DR.1?
Cheers,
Bob

nigelrayner · 18 May 2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bobs_buckles

Nigel,
Where in the UK have you bought the DR.1?
Cheers,
Bob

Nowhere yet I'm afraid. When I said "bought" I should have said "ordered". I placed an advanced order at Hannants - wanted to make sure I get one with the figures. Don't have it yet. Hannants is still showing it as a future release.

Cheers,

Nigel