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Old 7 May 2008, 10:57 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 7 May 2008, 11:05 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Old 8 May 2008, 01:26 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Gary- Do you have drawings of the F.I tailplane/elevator and rudder you can show side by side with the Dr.I so everybody (me included) can see the differences?

Nice photo of the Dr.I from the rear. What serial number was that?

Note you have the span of the tailplane/elevator as 2700 mm. I believe the Baubeschreibung number of 2625 was taken from F.I 101/17 and 2700 mm is correct for Dr.Is. I assume F.I 102/17 and 103/17 also had a 2700 mm span.

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OK, to satisfy Taz' request, here is my comparison drawing between the Fokker F.I's 2620mm horizontal tail vs. the production Dr.I's 2700mm horizontal tail. Note the 25mm outwardly curved leading edge of the F.I vs. the straight leading edge of the production Dr.I. Also, F.I 102/17 and 103/17 had the curved 2620mm horizontal tail.

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Old 8 May 2008, 02:51 PM   #64 (permalink)
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PS: I think the same about the wing tapes of the Eduard's Camel. The Blue max kit has a better representation of the wing tapes....
Yes! Exactly what I stated on HS. And you should have seen the anger that statement provoked.
In the end, I had people offering to give me their Blue Max kits if I was so damned keen on them... I did take one.

However, Later, I purchased and built Eduards Camel (I have three more in the stash). Under a coat of paint, the rib tapes don't seem so bad.
And let's be honest, Eduards Camel builds up much easier than the Blue Max kit.

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Stephen- While we are beating up on the kit to improve it, the Militärnummer or serial number stencils are wrong for 454/17 and 152/17. Both show a full size roman Numeral "I" after "DR". I have no photos of Dr.I stencils which do not have a smaller "I" than "DR". They got it right on 127/17, so why change on the other two? Here are two stencils in the same serial number range as 454 and 152 and both have the smaller "I".

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Fokker rib tapes were only applied to wooden skeletal structure. Like Wings.
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Stephen, Not quite accurate, but close - rib tapes were also applied to the steel tube horizontal stab ribs as well, but in the case of the Knowlton Albatros-built D.VII (with an O.A.W.-built tail!), two were omitted only on the two inner-most stab ribs directly over the fuselage area as shown in these photos. This due to the fact that this central stab area was not directly out into the slipstream zone. Note the LACK of rib tapes on the elevator ribs. Thanks, Gary Sewall

We we talking about Fokker Dr.I types right? WE don't see them on the Dr.I types.
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Stephen, Gary- The more I look at photographs, the more the returned light blue paint begins to look like tape to me. Especially on the tailplane. Opinions? Taz Terry Phillips
Thats what A. Imrie thinks. Most modern full scale replica builders duplicate this.
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Stephen- While we are beating up on the kit to improve it, the Militärnummer or serial number stencils are wrong for 454/17 and 152/17. Both show a full size roman Numeral "I" after "DR". I have no photos of Dr.I stencils which do not have a smaller "I" than "DR". They got it right on 127/17, so why change on the other two? Here are two stencils in the same serial number range as 454 and 152 and both have the smaller "I". Taz
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We . . .beating up on the kit? As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger when they were surrounded by firece Apache warriors . . . What you mean we white eyes?!"

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". . .I have no photos of Dr.I stencils which do not have a smaller 'I' than 'DR'. . ."

A double negative? So you are saying? ". . .I have photos of Dr.I stencils which do have a smaller 'I' than 'DR'. . ." Seriously I am just making sure I understand what your saying.

You, myself and certain others have access to a wide selection of Fok. Dr.I images. Stencils on many types of aircraft did vary from batch to batch even in font. But as you said Eduard got two stencils wrong here. Why they did it is something they have not responded to me about - yet.
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Stephen- Every photo I have of a Dr.I shows the Roman Numeral "I" shorter/smaller than the "DR". Double negatives work as long as you keep them straight (or crooked or something).

Gary's point was the tailplane ribs did have rib tapes, but not the moving control surfaces.

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But no tapes over the inner most ribs on the horizontal stabilizer, because they were out of the slipstream? Or, is that not confirmed?

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