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23 May 2008, 10:49 AM
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Thats better thanks...
Alot better than the older pictures 
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23 May 2008, 11:02 AM
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Srecko- I hate to say this so late, but look at Dave's thread and you will see the F.I Triplanes were covered with bleached linen instead of the unbleached linen of the Dr.I.
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23 May 2008, 11:46 AM
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Hi Taz- no it is not too late. It yellowed moderately as I know. Also green color very fast get brown shade. Maybe it is pale when very new but few weeks later not. Long time ago I have read some text where is stated that in general German fabric is darker then on other countries airplanes.
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23 May 2008, 12:09 PM
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I have take some time to search forum and thats what i find:
Linen color for Voss F.I?
Also to note what Dan San said:
Taz:
These two Fokker V. machines are covered with bleached linen (white) and when doped becomes quite translucent. After doping and varishing, it takes on a yellowish-white color. The unbleached linen is its natural color and is light greyish-beige, after doping and varnishing it is a tan color. The Fokker E types were covered with unbleached linen. Fok.DR.I 144/17 and 425/17 were covered with unbleached linen fabric.
And the tan color is what I have used here. In the attach is teh snap shoot from the preserved fabric from Dr.I. It is not photographed at perfect condition and sample is too old.
What is one more problem is the color of the landing gear struts. they are too much dirt so i can get are they light blue base or green. Any idea?
Cheers 
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23 May 2008, 03:33 PM
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Srecko- Read Dan-San's comments again. The tan is for Dr.I aircraft. Bleached fabric yellowish-white, unbleached tan. Incidentally, the fabric was not varnished. Alan Toelle has found no clear varnish on any original WW-I German fabric after examining a large number of samples.
Taz
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23 May 2008, 03:48 PM
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No varnish, it s not waterproof.
Taz:
The large piece of fabric from Fok.D.VII(OAW)4490/18 was varnished. the remnents are still there. Look at the white border on the cross. The B.V.L specifically requires the fabric to be waterproofed by using varnish over the last coat of dope or paint. I believe Alan is in error here. All German aircraft had to be waterproofed, inside and out. Varnish was the method. On painted camouflage surfaces, if sufficient coats of paint were applied and the surface was sealed, it did not require varnishing.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
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23 May 2008, 04:36 PM
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BASF had pattented before WW1 some protective coat for the airplanes and they are used [in 1912]. In first time no protection is used but this caused fabric vey soon to be useles. Fokker airplane come in 1917 and it is hard to believe that no protection is used. Alan Toelle findings are interesting.
Dan San- where is made directives that fabric on German airplanes must be protected by any means, dope or varnish?
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23 May 2008, 07:46 PM
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You might be the first one to have built this kit so far. Keep going. Looks great so far.
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23 May 2008, 10:46 PM
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Thank you Ross 
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24 May 2008, 12:15 AM
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Sreiko,
You're doing a great job with this, stick with it.
I'm looking forward to seeing the final results regardless of painting, doping, streaking, varnishing and any other anomaly that may have reared its pretty head.
I salute you
Bob
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