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Old 3 October 2003, 11:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just read a great review of a kit in FSM where the modeller used a great deat of Super Glue.

Super glue was invented in the 60"s for medical surgery.

Super glue over time crystalises (sp) over time and then provides no adhesion. This means parts you glue together with SG will come apart over time as opposited to parts gled with Epoxy or plastic glue.
 
Old 5 October 2003, 07:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have been using CA primarily since I came back to the hobby 6 or 7 years ago. It's quick drying is the only reason I can model. I'm constitutionally incapable of allowing anything to dry unmolested.

I haven't had any problems with CA staying bonded outside of models I dropped on the floor. That has been long enough to fill the display cases I have. Now if they suddenly start disintegrating at the same rate I built them, I'll never run out of display space, so maybe it's not altogether a bad thing
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Old 7 October 2003, 10:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Have you ever tried Testor's Liquid Cement for Plastis Models. It dries quickly and does not crystalize later.
 
Old 8 October 2003, 03:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Quite a number of years ago, I remember this being a real issue with the model ship builders.
Even R/C aircraft builders are starting to use super glue to tack things together while the slower glue cures. Some of this is coming about for health reasons as well as longevity of the glue joint.
 
Old 8 October 2003, 04:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I use Tennax on white styrene, such as vacs. I like the way CA works better on injected parts.

I haven't heard of CA crystalizing before. I know some guys that have 15 year old R/C planes assembled with CA. I also know that there are many types of CA some work real well with splastic and others are a disaster.

I use PlastiZap and Krazy Glue (small plaxtic container in a plastic tube). OTOH, Krazy Glue makes a larger 1/4 oz bottle with a cool cap. This stuff is marked Kraft and it's worthless for modeling.

I have never found a putty or other filler that feathers into styrene as well as CA does. I converted a Lindberg Jenny to an N9-H. The "chin" of the N9 was more upswept than the Jenny. I filled the inside of the fuselage front with CA. I built this up this layer by layer,to avoid heat buildup until I had quite a plug of CA in the nose. Then I sanded the outside to the new contour. The front end was clear CA feathering into gray styrene 1/4 to 1/2 an inch back. Impossible to tell where the CA stops and the styrene begins after 1 coat of primer.

In lieu of going on about the virtues of CA, I'll just say that I find way more advantages to using CA than disadvantages.
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Who has not yet had CA crystalize on him.
 
Old 10 October 2003, 03:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Greetings all; I have kits that are about 19 years old. I have used Cyano type glue regularly for about twenty years. No signs of poblems yet.
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Old 10 October 2003, 03:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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TG, What is the source of your comment????? I have a 1/6th scale triplane with over 300 flights that was built in 84. I have never heard of a joint just coming apart and I am a very active modeler. Lets stick to facts not fears.
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Old 10 October 2003, 03:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Since I live in an "old goats"
apartment (not enough room to
swing a cat----or a dog) I use
Testor's non-toxic glue for as-
sembling my aircraft models and
my car models. They hold together
very well. and no walking around sideways after using it.
 
Old 10 October 2003, 03:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have been using CA glue for about 15 years - I use it mostly on cabane and wing strutts and landing gear strutts where strenght is required. I have yet to see one of my kits come apart and some of my models are 10-12 years old.

The only time that I have seen CA glue crystalize is when a thick coat is used - just use it sparingly.
 
Old 12 October 2003, 03:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ditto on Stephen's comments, I have a model that is 26 years old that used super glue for all joints. It has a natural metal finish and it is a tight as when 1st done
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