Lozenge decal test it for all

[MerlinV]

I like Test 2 Colour Traced a lot...

Cheers,

Hugh

[Doug Baumann]

DAN thank you for that info .. we or I forget how bad the attrition rate was and it is a sobering reminder of the war were 20,000 dead a day for one side was normal in one major battle i would like your input on this lower color lozenge if you have the time it would help a lot THANKS Doug

[Doug Baumann]

HI FOKKER J thanks for your input and complementi will work on the backside of the lozenge soon but i must get this tracing or overlap standardized for all of the lozenges 4- 5 - night - naval pattern

[Doug Baumann]

hello MERLIN V i like number 2 test i also like number 1 test blended just to tell you all about this they are all the same colors back grounds DAN SAN ABBOT O.K.ED the changes were from the traced or overlap only the panzer gray brightens the color is a optical illusion { spell check went a little freekie on that one lol lol} sorry about that!!!! Doug

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Hi Doug:
My preference is the test No.1, blended trace. When you get into the lower fabric, I'll jump in.
It looks more natural.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

[Doug Baumann]

HI DAN page 16 has the AUSTRALIANS colors and page 19 has German swatch and night colors in this thread thanks for your Help DAN !! the HALB colors soon Doug

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by Doug Baumann

HI FOKKER J thanks for your input and complementi will work on the backside of the lozenge soon but i must get this tracing or overlap standardized for all of the lozenges 4- 5 - night - naval pattern

Hi Doug,

I believe that you already have the backside (interior) done, as well as the outside (exterior). I think that they are there (done) already!
Hopefully someone will agree or disagree with me on the point I made in my last POST, on the "Stained Glass" (traced) effect.

See below:

Originally Posted by FOKKERJ

Hello Doug,

I like "TEST 1 BLENDED TRACED" FOR THE EXTERIOR.
I like "OLD TRACED" or "TEST 2 COLOR TRACED" for the interior.
"OLD TRACED" seems a little more vibrant out of the two and "TEST 2 COLOR TRACED" seems a little more subtle. Either one works for me, I like them both.

I also agree with THE GREAT WALDO, (Andrew) that the colors should be factory fresh. They can be varnished "Yellow" or weathered to the individual's desires.

About a year ago, I started a thread that featured an auction on ebay. It contained a piece of Flugzeugstoff that had the "TRACE", "STAINED GLASS EFFECT", or "OVERLAP". I asked if it was legitimate or bogus (something to that effect), as I had never seen this "TRACED" (interior) effect before. I don't remember receiving an answer.
I now believe that they were only showing the interior side as it probably had more vibrant colors than the aged exterior side. If I am right, previous interior decals were a little Greyed when they should have been more vibrant than the exterior. After seeing Gary Sewall's Fokker D.VII piece, both sides, I believe this to be true. Dan-San will remember the costly offer on ebay as he offered up three pieces from his collection during the discussion.

Keep up the great job.

One of your several admirers, Jay

This is Gary Sewall's piece from a Fokker D.VII that clearly shows the "Traced" look and lack of yellow (varnish?) on the right side (interior), as compared with the flip side on the left (exterior) that appears more faded, yellowed, and lacking or less prominent, of the "Traced" look.
An interesting note is that under the Balkenkreuse where the Black paint has mostly disappeared, the colors are more vibrant like the interior side. Perhaps they were painted on before the linen was varnished as they are not as yellowed from dope or is it just aging? I hope that Dan-San or someone may know the finishing procedures commonly practiced by the manufacturers when it came to covering these birds.

As always, I welcome almost any comments, good, bad, or otherwise.

Best Wishes, Jay

[FOKKERJ]

Just checking in and updating my last post!

[Doug Baumann]

HI FOKKER J i didnt thank of that !! but i was thanking of a lot lighter look at your blue jeans the dark kind and look inside of them they are lighter you have seen color prints look on the back side of them and see they are lighter if it is that way now it has to be that way then dont you thank????

[Doug Baumann]

[/IMG] back side upper lozenge