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Old 5 September 2008, 12:48 AM #21 (permalink)
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Doug,

If I have the information correct, according to Dan-San the fabric is 1350 mm wide and the pattern repeats every 453 mm. I am not sure what you mean by doing it full scale, but for printing it should be at least 300 dots per inch (11.8 dots per mm). 1350 mm x 453 mm would be about 15,900 x 5350 pixels or about 85,000,000 pixels. Your samples repeat about 10 times so your file would be about 10 times this. That's a huge file. You might want to work with something smaller.

Some numbers to help with scaling (for printing at 300 dpi)
Full Scale: 1350 x 453 mm (15,930 x 5345 pxl)
1/32 Scale: 42.2 x 14.2 mm (498 x 167 pxl)
1/36 Scale: 37.5 x 12.6 mm (443 x 148 pxl)
1/48 Scale: 28.1 x 9.4 mm (332 x 111 pxl)
1/72 Scale: 18.8 x 6.3 mm (221 x 74 pxl)

Note that these will all look big on a monitor. My 15 inch monitor at 1024 x 768 is only about 80 pxl/inch, so it would look about 4 times as big on my monitor as printed. If you just want to experiment with how it would look, you can use the dimensions I have given in mm, but the size forum members will see will vary depending on the size and screen resolution of their monitors.

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Old 5 September 2008, 04:02 PM #22 (permalink)
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dear Steve thank you for your help with this. I scaled this using inches in GIMP I never though of using pixels is that what you use??? what I mean with full scale is one repeat width. i have ship dock yard plans that are 7' x10' and 100 mg per sheet that I used. I dont thing i would have trouble but must save often and restart program after or run out of system memory at least I hope I dont have trouble thanks for the info
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Old 5 September 2008, 04:12 PM #23 (permalink)
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steve i will try mm and inches to see if it will come out the same ... i have a 20" monitor so they look good to me and i was wandering about color between systems we have two systems at my house then my sons computer i change vidio cards to a geforce 7300 512mb and mine is geforce 6800 256 mb of vidio ram and this web sight is gray and mine isa tanish color and both have the 32 bit color?? i hope the color looks the same for all????
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Old 5 September 2008, 04:14 PM #24 (permalink)
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i just went on my wifes computer and she has a 15" monitor and it doze LOOK big
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Old 5 September 2008, 06:08 PM #25 (permalink)
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Doug,

All of my graphics programs are older (I don't upgrade very often), so I work in pixels. This is also the underlying base of all raster graphics. Since GIMP allows you to work in inches, it must also have a setting for resolution. Make sure that is set appropriately for what you want to do. You might also consider switching to mm (or cm) as that will save you having to do conversions.

If we all had calibrated monitors, the colors that we would see would be nearly the same on every computer. In reality they vary from one computer to another. This is not quite as bad as it sounds. If your "lozenge" pattern matches the colors of an internet source on your computer, it should match the same source on my computer, even though we don't see the same thing.

The problem comes when you print it. The printed colors will be different than the colors on your monitor, because monitors work on additive light and pigments work of subtractive light. If your monitor is calibrated and Gimp compensates for color spaces, it offset this some.

That said, you can't do any worse than some of the commercial "lozenge" decals that have been produced.

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Old 5 September 2008, 07:25 PM #26 (permalink)
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thanks steve again .. well what do you think of the colors and the texture?? witch do you thank looks close or you like??or dont like???
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Old 6 September 2008, 01:10 AM #27 (permalink)
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Of what you have done, I like #3 the best because it is the subtlest. It appears that you are using the NASM colors (see Mark Miller's lozenge page). If you look through the other samples, you will see that your bluish green should probably be much darker. The Australian War Memorial is restoring their Alb.D.V. They have a page that compares the fabric they are using to remnants of original fabric. You can see the colors they are using.

I have attached a sample of "lozenge" fabric that I made using the pictures on the AWM page. It is 450 pxls wide (1 pxl/3 mm). This is just slightly over the 443 pxls for 1/36 scale. It shows the pattern repeated once. The top and bottom match, so that it can be used to make a strip of any length desired. Feel free to copy it (right click, save picture as), and modify it any way you like.

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Old 6 September 2008, 01:52 AM #28 (permalink)
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thanks again Steve that is what i need!! i took the color form my own decal and seen other colors on the internet and changed it this is my old pattern all wrong but it was ok 15 or so years ago when there were not very much WWI models around and no internet to speed up info wow times have changed rom[/IMG]
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Old 6 September 2008, 10:18 AM #29 (permalink)
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well back to the MOUSE PAD lol
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Old 6 September 2008, 01:59 PM #30 (permalink)
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test number 6 very soon
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