Lozenge decal test it for all

[gipsymoth236k]

Maybe this original 5-color lozenge fabric from a German LVG tail will help, but remember it is aged and therefore faded a bit. These colors and patterns match my previously posted original 5-color Fokker D.VII wing fabric exactly:

Regards, Gary Sewall

[Doug Baumann]

thanks again GIPSYMOTH236ki take it as the lower color right and do you or any one has photos of pink and blue rib tapes how about the purple i dont know about this one we want it all!!! righti do

[Doug Baumann]

thank you Wojtek Fajga is this the lower color??? i dont mind the pattern i have mine but the colors is what i need!

[Doug Baumann]

HI DAVE DETAILS my pattern might work but i must adjust it for your scale{ the tracing might look off and the weave must be sharperyour width should be 3.916666666 inches unless my math is wrong

[SCMc]

Hi Doug,

The picture that Gary posted is the upper pattern, but remember that it is about 90 years old, and may have been exposed to a fair amount of sunlight before being put in a museum.

Wojtek's colors are also the upper pattern.

I am not sure how you are doing your calculations
1350 mm ÷ 25.4 mm/in × 1/12 = 4.43 in

Steve

[Doug Baumann]

here we go again check scale plz i am getting a math error mine says 1"61/128" or all most 1/32" short from 1"1/2"how i find it out is 47" the pattern not the full width of the fabric but the full width of the pattern so 47divided by 32{scale} is1.46875 inches[/IMG]

[Doug Baumann]

SCMc what i am going by is gepsymoths tape across his fabric 47"

[Doug Baumann]

doze any one have a full color lower pattern??? i am getting mixup witch color is were.. i only have small swatchs

[SCMc]

Hi Doug,

Unfortunately Scott lost some attacments a few days ago, including Gary's (Gypsymoth's), so I can't look at them. Perhaps Gary will be kind enough to post them again (Scott offered to help anyone who contacted him to fix the lost attachments).

Based on the whole pattern being 1350 mm (53.15 in) it appears that you have cut about 18 mm (0.71 in) off the left side, leaving the right side as it was. This leaves it about 1332 mm or 52.52 in (well over 47 in, but again this is based on the assumption that the fabric is printed 1350 mm wide).

Was the 47 in from seam to seam? Can you match it up the pattern and see if more was cut off from one or both sides on Gary's fabric?

The overall appearance of your lastest strip is very good. I would tone down the overlap a bit, but I think others will like it. The resolution is still fairly low. Using your numbers, at 1/32 this should be 47/32 in (exactly 1/32 less than 1 1/2 in). The printed resolution would be 168 pxl ÷ 47/32 = 114.4 dpi. It would actually work better for 1/72: 168 pxl ÷ 47/72 = 257.4 dpi.

This is an old version I had (lower on the bottom)


Steve

[gipsymoth236k]

OK, go here guys for many of your lozenge fabric study answers:

5 color lozenge

To me, the "LVG" fabric sample study shown in the above article is the most likely accurate, i.e. "factory fresh" set of 5 colors for the upper lozenge patterns that match my faded, 90 year old original lozenge fabric. Also remember that a final varnish coat that caused fading and yellowing over time was applied over the clear doped printed lozenge fabric.

I'd say your lozenge colors are so very close, but I simply do NOT see the upper 5 color fabric's TOPside surface outlined with the "stained-glass" effect around the lozenge patterns in any original fabric samples that I own or have seen, however I DO see this effect clearly on the BACKside of the fabric, as shown here again in my original Fokker D.VII upper left wing, top surface fabric. Note in the split-view photo that the lozenge pattern color dye was applied to the TOPside of the fabric surface, and does NOT also penetrate with the same color bleed-through on the BACKside of the fabric, but it DOES indeed show a "stained-glass" effect of overlapping color, but again on the BACKside only.

Also shown again is the "seam" spacing of about 47 3/8" (1203mm), but DO consider some shrinking probably has taken place over the last 90 years! Again, the "seam" spacing is not the same dimension as the repeated lozenge pattern spacing.

Perhaps I could just measure each lozenge pattern for you to get more accurate dimensions?

(Many thanks go to Robert Karr for the photos and study of my fabric!)

Regards, Gary Sewall