Lozenge decal test it for all

Doug Baumann · 30 August 2008, 04:42 PM

I always loved the lozenge camo but there was some thing wrong with it ... it never dyed evenly and I am trying to duplicate this and one of two test has 10% amber in it to copy the finish . please tell me what you all think of the color and and the shading!!!the finished decal pattern can be scaled for all to use for FREE

Doug Baumann · 30 August 2008, 04:43 PM

test one no amber

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Doug Baumann · 30 August 2008, 04:44 PM

test two with amber

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MerlinV · 30 August 2008, 05:50 PM

Hey Doug,

I like the way you are thinking.

You might have gone just a little too far with the Amber though (I think).

But, and Dan San will come in on this definitely at some point, the fabric was died in stages... So I think that your "uneven die" affect might be a bit extreme.

Cheers,

Hugh

Doug Baumann · 30 August 2008, 06:23 PM

thank you MerlinV thats why I posted it.. i did not know either!! or done any thing more to it

Dan_San_Abbott · 30 August 2008, 08:02 PM

Doug Baumann:
What your statement tells me, you have never seen actual fabric. The color are strong, brillant and evenly printed.
The process of printing the fabric is not staged, it is done at one time. The are either 4 or 5 metal rollers, one for each color, synchronized together to print slightly over lapping patterns, approximately 3 to 5 mm. The roller have a printing surface 1400m wide. The cloth is either 1300 mm wide (4 color) or 1340mm wide (5 color) The linen fabric after the finishing processes are done and the fabric has been dried goes the printing process followed by a drying proces and then is put up in manufactures rolls, about 500 to 600 meters long. This is later rerolled in to shipping rolls of around 100 meters long. In this process the fabric is inspected for defects which are marked at the edges with tuffs of colored yarn. This is what the aircraft manufacturers get.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Doug Baumann · 30 August 2008, 11:05 PM

DEAR DAN no i have not seen lozenge print in person i have the WWI AERO with the lower color fabric on the cover .. and color photos .. whats your thoughs ??? remember this is a test .. i know that the colors dont take evenly some dark some light on the same color i will mess with it more thanks for your input DAN

SCMc · 31 August 2008, 02:57 AM

Doug,

While I see variation in color in close up photos of reproduction fabric, I doubt it would be visible at the scale you posted. You have produced a neat effect, but I think it is out of scale.

I believe that the doped fabric should be darker, and slightly more saturated than the untreated fabric. By just adding amber, you have made it lighter and less saturated.

Steve

Doug Baumann · 31 August 2008, 10:30 AM

thank you SCMc its the one of many tests... out of scale maybe! but most of our models are photoed at close range well with in real air craft photos see what i am trying to say if you can see it on the real aircraft at so many feet from it why not our models ... photos are in a scale also ...

gipsymoth236k · 31 August 2008, 12:44 PM

Doug,

Here is my original Fokker D.VII top-left wing 'five-color' lozenge fabric with 4:5 style German cross for your viewing. Note the rather muted colors due to two reasons -time and an aged yellowish final vanish coating, mostly cracked now, that was applied over the clear doped fabric.

Let me know if you want more photos, like of the backside, or close ups.

Regards, Gary Sewall