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15 February 2002, 07:53 AM
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1. Who makes the perfect (aka accurate) Pfalz silbergrau paint?
2. I've seen a few illustrations of Pfalz D.III/IIIa fighters with the wooden struts varnished - no silbergrau paint. No photographs I've ever seen corroberate this. Were ANY of them produced this way?
Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
Craig
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15 February 2002, 09:01 AM
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Craig asks: "1. Who makes the perfect (aka accurate) Pfalz silbergrau paint?"
You do Craig. Just a dob of matt white in your favourite aluminium will do the trick. Sorry, I have no metric equivalent for a dob which is, of course, an imperial measure.
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Peter L
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15 February 2002, 09:34 AM
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Thanks, Peter.
Now, I'm not going to quibble over what constitutes a "dob", but into how much of "my favorite aluminum" do I deposit this "dob"?
A ratio of . . what-to-what?
Any knowledge 'bout them struts?
Cheers to ya
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16 February 2002, 10:51 AM
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All Pfalz D.III and D.IIIa struts were fabric wrapped then aluminum *doped. *At least one captured example was stripped down and I believe that this varnished strut anomally came from photos of the captured example. *Also there were several that had their struts painted at the Jasta level. *This was usually the unit i.d. colour. *STL
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16 February 2002, 05:19 PM
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You may also do an early Pfalz D.III in mauve and green camo.
Undersurfaces probaly Pfalz silbergrau
* * * * * * * * * *Les 8)
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18 February 2002, 11:08 AM
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Craig;
"Who makes the perfect silvergrau color"? If you are asking about hobby paints the only one I know that makes one pre-mixed is Misterkit - how accurate it is, I dont know.
Most hobbyists that I know (including myself) mix their own.Actually, the term "silvergrau' is misleading as the actual color was aluminum with a grayish tint!
For what its worth, I use Testor's Aluminum metallizer with 30
per cent light gray.
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5 November 2002, 03:49 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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My version of Siver-Grey
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5 November 2002, 11:27 PM
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Hi Craig;
I'm doing the Eduard Pfalz D-IIIa at the moment... I'm thinking 50% Light grey (Maybe RLM 63) and 50% aluminium. Then again I might cut the % of the aluminium down.....
All the Best
Neil
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6 November 2002, 12:33 AM
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Hi Neil-
fwiw-
I tinkered with this and came up:
The same ratio's you mention, but trade a bit of white in the silver-
50% rlm 63, 30% metallic, 20% white and a spot of med blue. The metal dust is very subtle at that point and seems to scale. A nice contrast to the 'unpainted' straight metal bits. I like Hans' Pfalz - nice balance.
cheers-Ken
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6 November 2002, 07:02 AM
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http://www.misterkit.com
In the index, see the MisterKit colors: ref MKGC17 German Pfalz Silbergrau.
Hope that can be of some interrest for you...
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