zen and the art of plastic modeling

PeterL · 31 August 2002, 11:41 PM

I have posted an on line version of "Scale Model Aircraft in Plastic Card" at http://www.wwimodeler.com/harry/woodman.html

I hope some may find it useful

cam · 1 September 2002, 03:55 AM

Peter,

Thanks for taking the time and effort to publish this (public domain?) work to a new medium. Is UK copyright 30 years? Australian copyright is 35 years, and US copyright is 80 years. I have started to transfer the Battle Below to the web as it is out of Australian copyright by a long shot. But it will take a big effort. Makes your effort with the Woodman book even more appreciated.

cam

1 September 2002, 03:58 AM

Outstanding Peter! 8)

Being more a dabbler than a dedicated plastic model builder, I was unfamiliar with that title.

Thanks for the time and effort to make it available to all!

PeterL · 1 September 2002, 04:10 AM

Cam, Harry Woodman owns the copyright and has given his blessing. So it's all above board. For me it was very much a labour of love.

The source material is more than thirty years old now and younger modellers may wonder what's so special about it. The core of Harry Woodman's approach to model making is as valid now as it was in the late sixties when he first expounded it. Back then it was a revelation and I never met a scratch builder who doesn't name the author as an influence. A total of only 3,000 copies were printed and I have been three years usuccessfuly trying to persuade the publishers to reprint it. My web version is a poor substitute but I hope it will spur a few more to have a try at building from scratch

cam · 1 September 2002, 09:17 AM

Peter,

>Harry Woodman owns the copyright and has
>given his blessing. So it's all above board.

Excellent.

>I have been three years usuccessfuly trying to
>persuade the publishers to reprint it.

I am aware of your efforts. I am glad you have self-published it to the web.

>My web version is a poor substitute

On the contrary, have you added the images yourself? I think they add to the text really well.

>but I hope it will spur a few more to have
>a try at building from scratch

Not scratch, but I did go into the spare room and start working on the Brisfit and Martinsyde I have been procrastinating on.

Thanks again for publishing it to you page.

cam

topgun56 · 2 September 2002, 12:04 AM

CAM'

Why are your posts so negative? And your information is very rarely correct. The US copywrite is 27 years renewed once with editing.

And if one has permission of the original author...whats the problem.

Plus this mag on the web could actually bring in new modellers.

Let the man put the mag on the web, If there is a law suit its his problem , not yours.

I know more problems with TG56. But I seem to be the only one on the Forum who does not take your B.

cam · 2 September 2002, 05:05 AM

TG,

>And your information is very rarely correct.

;)

>The US copywrite is 27 years renewed once
>with editing.

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html

"US Copyright Section 302 ..... Copyright in a work created on or after January 1, 1978, subsists from its creation and, except as provided by the following subsections, endures for a term consisting of the life of the author and 70 years after the author's death........ Anonymous Works, Pseudonymous Works, and Works Made for Hire.-In the case of an anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire, the copyright endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication, or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first. "

US copyright has been amended twice recently, it used to be about the same as UK and Australian copyright law. There was the Sonny Bono act of a few years ago which was cynically called "The Mickey Mouse Act" and there was the recent DMCA which upped US copyright protection as well. Each time Mickey Mouse has come close to falling out of copyright Congress has increased the years US copyright protects work.

>And if one has permission of the original
>author...whats the problem.

No problem, I think it is brilliant that Peter has done this. I dont think you read my posts properly.

cam

StephenLawson · 2 September 2002, 11:02 AM

PeterL: As always sir, You are the man!!!! 8)

topgun56 · 3 September 2002, 12:56 AM

Cam,

You are correct about copyrights, But it was not just the US, it seems this all came from The BERNE CONVENTION. the author plus 50 years plus.

Tried to read US copyright law but as usual its in Adobe. But "if the author gives permission" rules as in the topic statement. So you post does not apply.

With a good Lawyer, I could defeat any copyright law. The law is soooo ambiguous with some may qualifications. No problem.

and the internet, unexplored laws.

Print your mag.

topgun56 · 3 September 2002, 01:02 AM

Thanks CAM'

I thought it would be easy to just go to the internet and spoil your fun' WRONG.

Now if I wanted to copyright my npost.....easy.

When is the US Govt going to get with it. Coded, coded classified, Make it as difficult as possible to find out about your gov't.

Need to buy new encycl. set. year later out of date.