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Old 8 May 2002, 06:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Greetings all,
Lugarno has posted a link to AJP Models in the thread "WW1 Vehicles" already so I will not do so again, however, Lugarno- thank you, thank you, thank you!
On visiting this site, which is in French, you will find some extraordinary looking kits in both 1/48th and in 1/72nd scales. For example in 1/48th there are the Caudron G3 and G4, a Voisin LAS, a Spad A2 and others.
My only problem is that my understanding of the French language, is to say the least, minimal.
In the section of their site titled "Montage du Mois"
they are showing the technique of covering a wing frame section with paper (?). The frames remind me of "stick and tissue" kits, however, what I would like to know are these framed wings, and presumably fusilages, pre-built, as in resin or white metal castings or does the modeler have to build them ala. "stick and tissue"? Also, what are the other bits made out of? Vacu-form or resin or what?
Can someone who knows French help out?
The photos of these kits are amazing. The framed flying surfaces have that translucent effect impossible to do any other way...
This site is worth a visit.
Thanks,
RichMC1
 
Old 8 May 2002, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You are very welcome. I'm glad I could help. I took a look at the instructions for the SPAD VII, and the bill of materials, which follows:

paper
2 sheets of PE
engine, propeller, tyres, "extras"
...

and it leads me to believe it is indeed a stick and tissue type of build. I also saw this pic of one in progress:


You can see more pics at this url:

http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Thompson_P/Spad/

I must say it looks wonderful! If you decide to get a plane, do let us know how it turns out!
 
Old 8 May 2002, 10:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh, and while I was at it, here's a pic of a detail part made by another company:

(edit: for some reason, the image no longer shows up. So I have replaced it with the url)

http://www.part.pl/s48/s48-090/06.jpg

"Part" in Poland makes it in 1/48 scale. *Amazing Parabellum, isn't it?
 
Old 8 May 2002, 10:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Just had a look at the web-site of AJP Kits. Boy! what amasing structure!

You are correct in that the structure is very close to the "stick and tissue" assembly. Reading the article of "montage du mois" (model of the month in English), the following information can be gleamed:

The structure is all in photo-etched brass parts. The reviewer mentions that there are 2 ways to hold the structure together, either with CA glue such as grazy-glue or with brass-solder using a small soldering gun, which is the technique that he used in the review article.

After the brass parts are glued or soldered together, the structure is covered with tissue paper supplied with the kit. No mention is made in the article as to what kind of tissue paper it is.

The whole model is then covered with a varnish finish.

Very impressive models indeed!
 
Old 8 May 2002, 04:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Those kits terrify me. I can imagine trying to solder the joints, with heat sinks everywhere and a terrible lack of room to work.
 
Old 11 May 2002, 10:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I,too, would be terrified of soldering so much brass.But for such beauty......Incidently one of the links pages shoows a wing being constructed.The wing structure is a one piece brass photoetch[complete with ribs],you cover the tissue with a "solid",Pritt Stick or similar,white glue and place it over the brass carefully sticking it down and then folding the tissue over to complete and trim the tissue to size.You then gently!! roll the completed wing over a suitable cylinder to get the correct profile-you then have only 3 more to go!! But at only 54euro`s for the 1910 Avro Triplane,which is quite gorgeaus, Hmm new savings plan called for methinks
 
 

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