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Old 22 March 2002, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know we all love to see a great looking build and perfect finish. But I sometimes wonder why we dont see more models that have repairs and or patches to damage? Also exhaust and oil smudges.

This pic came from http://members.shaw.ca/flyingaces/archive1.htm



Notice the patch just under the King. Well I assume its a patch. Also notice the exhaust stain. Looks to be running a bit rich.

Also one of the cowling panels is missing. Wonder why its been removed?

Also this Jenny from the same site. Notice the patching on the upper wings ...

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Old 23 March 2002, 12:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just a thought Ross but I would say that,at a guess,the larger patch under the king is to repair a tear.The smaller patches look like bullet holes after being repaired with doped on patches[could that effect be duplicated with tinted Tippex/correcting fliud??].Looking at rear of the king is that a panel from another aircraft?.As for the Jenny.It looks as tho` the wing has been opened[both upper and lower notice!!]maybe to repair damage caused by a bad landing??
 
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Just a note on the Jenny. The smaller and narrow patches are repairs of fabric shear. Caused by heavy landings, overstressing the airframe and constant use in 120 degree Texas weather.

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Old 31 March 2002, 01:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have found if you take very thin tissue paper and cut it to desired size and apply it to the model over wet paint then paint over it lightly again after the first coat dried it looks pretty convincing as a patch.
You can also take a hot sewing pin and make a hole in the surface to simulate bullet holes, then take tissue and apply it around the hole and shred it a bit to simulate torn and damaged fabric. It takes work but it looks cool.

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All,

Check out the Spad 13 at the NASM: http://www.nasm.edu/galleries/gal206/WW1-2.jpg.

There are several small patches on the fabric that were for bullet holes. They are small black crosses. Look at the lower wing closest to the camera, and around the "2" on the fuselage.

I bet it would be difficult to recreate those in scale, however.

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Old 8 November 2004, 09:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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One of my lastest builds that I am working on will have a repair patch. I drilled too far through a wing when making a strut mounting hole. So I have used roll your own Cigarette paper as the patch. This paper is very thing. Once painted and weathered I think it will add greatly to the finish of the build. Plus cover my heavy handedness.
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Hey Ross! That is just what I have been looking for for my basketcase Jenny.Great pics. Cheers! John.
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Hey Ross! That is just what I have been looking for for my basketcase Jenny.Great pics. Cheers! John.
John. Have you noticed on the Jennie picture that one side of the elevators is darker than the other?
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Thats right! When I first looked it almost seemed like it was missing.Looks like the fabric was changed at two different times so that one side is older than the other.Overall,it is a great picture of an old Jenny that you can be sure that I will be using in the future for weathering purposes.I have never covered a model with fabric before so it will leave me lots of room for error.I havent quite decided whether I will cover any parts of the airplane being restored or only the basketcase.It might be nice to show the difference between new fabric and old.Maybe I will cover one wing. Cheers! John. P.S. Ross it seems that on my computer I can only bring up part of your posts and that an inch or so is missing from the right side of my screen.Do you know what may cause this?Everyone elses posts I seem to get OK.
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John,

Take your cursor, move it the very bottom of the page, you'll find a long retangular shaped thing (which probably has a name which I do not know), but notice it starts at the left but doesn't extend all the way to the right. Place your cursor on this bar, move it to the right, and voila!! Oh, you'll have to left click the mouse and hold it down while you slide. R.
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