Roden Albatros D.III

bristol scout · 4 November 2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PrzemoL

Very interesting. Especially the repaired top wing area seen from the underside. Have you assumed that the ribs were taped there?
All in all, a nice clean Albatros. Congratulations!

The ribs were taped----I seem to remember 25mm tapes --at least on DV's.

Cheers,
Dave.

Anders Kofoed Hansen · 5 November 2009, 07:24 AM

Hello all

Thank you all very much for your nice comments, it is very much appreciated.

Hi RAGIII. Thank you very much for your kind words. Very much appreciated.

Hello Stephen. Thank you very much for your comments. Much appreciated. Weathering is something I really need to improve. I have tried to put a little dirt and oil-stains around the engine but it don’t show very well in the pictures. I was not sure how or where to apply the exhaust staining, so I was very careful not to ruin my finish. Any advice on how to make exhaust staining would be most welcome.

Hi Terry. Thank you very much for your nice comment.

Hello mIKE. Thank you very much.

Hi Bertl. Thank you, glad you like it. I am sorry; I have not taken any ”in progress” pictures. I will in my next build.

Hello Doug. Thank you very much. I fist painted the wing linnen, and then, when I had painted the camuflage colours I made some scratches (with my fingernail and fine sandpaper). It worked well. Really Glad you like it.

Hi Przemol. Thank you very much for your comment, very much appreciated. I have tried to make the recovered area to look transparent (is that the right word???) in the right light. Maybe it is a bit ”overdone” but I like the effect. I have assumed the rips were taped, but maybe I liked the effect a bit more before I applied the rip tapes, but that is too late now.

Hello Kaiser Bill. Thank you very much for your kind words. Very much appreciated.

Hi Shrispispra. Thank you very much.

Hello Dave. Thank you. I think you are right.

Kind regards

Anders Kofoed Hansen

PrzemoL · 5 November 2009, 02:48 PM

Thanks for your answer, Anders. I supposed you wanted to get the transparency effect. My question was because in my opinion ribs are dark when viewed from the underside. However, if they are taped, than they might appear brighter. Anyway, great painting job!

Doug Baumann · 6 November 2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PrzemoL

Thanks for your answer, Anders. I supposed you wanted to get the transparency effect. My question was because in my opinion ribs are dark when viewed from the underside. However, if they are taped, than they might appear brighter. Anyway, great painting job!

and there lays the trouble with the painting of the wings.. in art you would have the lighter shad on the highest spot and the darkest in the lower and the original color in the middle ... but what were trying to make is a translucent effect and there is were the trouble begins ,,, with paint it is hard to copy the effects of light through fabric so we copy only one view of the light and angle and it looks funny in a different angle it is hard to do.. Good job Anders !!!

bobs_buckles · 7 November 2009, 01:16 AM

I have to agree with Doug regarding rib tape colour. Think about it. Two layers of CDL cloth are going to be more opaque than one layer. More opacity means the rib tape will stand out and appear lighter in colour against the surrounding area.
Take a look at the picture below. SE5a from RAF Hendon. The picture shows the lighter rib tape clearly. This effect is more pronounced when you are staring at the real thing.

Cheers,
Bob

PrzemoL · 7 November 2009, 03:20 AM

IMHO, Bob, you are right in the case, when the upper surface is painted, as in the photo of S.E. 5a you showed. However, if it is not, the effect may still be, that the ribs are partly visible and give the darker shade with even weak light coming from above the wing.

bobs_buckles · 7 November 2009, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PrzemoL

IMHO, Bob, you are right in the case, when the upper surface is painted, as in the photo of S.E. 5a you showed. However, if it is not, the effect may still be, that the ribs are partly visible and give the darker shade with even weak light coming from above the wing.

Przemol,
You make a fair point.
The next time I visit Hendon I will take a look at the Gunbus and Tabloid and see the effect for myself.
Watch this space

Bob

Doug Baumann · 7 November 2009, 08:55 AM

BOB you lucky Dog you

when i go to a museum i get to see B17-25-36-47-58-52 and a lonely MiG 21MF ..

thanks Bob

lol lol .note you can see the pc10 in side the pulleys hole, remember this aircraft is recovered in new fabric and as far as i know it not the same as the old type so the paint might bleed threw this is just and observation not fact on my part!! Very Nice Photos

my guess is to but the rib and spar detail on first and then cover the wing with a CDL decal to see if it mimicks it ... Doug

Deedoubleyou · 7 November 2009, 09:47 AM

If I may add a few thoughts.

If sunlight is penetrating through translucent material, more than one layer will be less translucent and block more light. Therefore, when viewed in natural sunlight from above, ribs and their tapes would appear darker when seen from underneath. See the picture of the D.F.W. C.V in the aircraft section. The photo Bob used as an example was taken indoors with the aid of a flash, which floods the subject with light from the level of the camera that is at ground level. This picture is not an accurate depiction of the effects of natural sunlight.

By the way, excellent build Anders.

Regards, Dwayne

Doug Baumann · 7 November 2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Deedoubleyou

If I may add a few thoughts.

If sunlight is penetrating through translucent material, more than one layer will be less translucent and block more light. Therefore, when viewed in natural sunlight from above, ribs and their tapes would appear darker when seen from underneath. See the picture of the D.F.W. C.V in the aircraft section. The photo Bob used as an example was taken indoors with the aid of a flash, which floods the subject with light from the level of the camera that is at ground level. This picture is not an accurate depiction of the effects of natural sunlight.

By the way, excellent build Anders.

Regards, Dwayne

your right also

that the trouble with it to be accurate in all light source's is hard if not imposable to do with a solid color wing !! thats why i made my Fokker DIII with clear plastic 1/36 Fokker DIII scratch build .. but i ahve never tryed the idea out on a solid wing !!