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Old 9 August 2005, 10:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation New Red Baron movie in Preproduction.

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here's the link to the production company. Look under Projects/fiction/preprod/Red Baron

www.miromar.de

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The movie tells the story of pilot Manfred von Richthofen, who became a legend as the “Red Baron”. The love for the young nurse, Käthe, and the responsibility for his comrades allow the adventurer to reflect and reconsider his past demeanor ...

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The movie tells the story of pilot Manfred von Richthofen, who becomes a legend between 1914 and 1918 – as the most famous and most successful flighter pilot of all times. As a man of honor, he tried everything in order to make survival possible for his opponents after a shooting. If he could not do this, then he sent flowers to the victims funeral.

When he saved the life of the Canadian pilot, Lieutenant Brown, from the rubble of his airplane, he meets the young nurse, Käthe and falls in love with her. Richthofen soon generated furor as a combat pilot. After he shot down the English flying ace and the best pilot of the allies, Captain Hawker, he earned the empire’s highest medal.

Again and again, he crosses paths with Käthe, who disapproves of his advancement. Contrary to the young, mostly noble pilots, who see aerial combat as a competition between two men rather than as a sporty challenge, she knows the true face of war, which takes place in its entire brutality and cruelty on the ground. Käthe cannot start anything with Richthofen’s romantic ideas of flying, of knightly duels in the clouds. His glorified and naive view of the war offends and infuriates her.

Richthofen gets shot and goes to the hospital with a massive head injury. There he again meets Käthe, who cannot escape any longer from his love. The supreme command wants to now keep Richthofen on the ground and appoints him as the director of the entire air force. Richthofen cannot bear the thought of sending his comrades out to fight while he stays on the ground. Without yet being fully cured, Richthofen gets in a plane.

In the end, Richthofen, who still has not recovered completely from his injury, gets involved in an aerial combat. His opponent is the Canadian, Lieutenant Brown, whose life he once saved ...

(Hey thats cool that your site makes a link out of his name. )
 
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Glad to see another WWI aviation flick, but I am very disappointed that the production team could not come anywhere close to the actual story.

Shades of Richthofen and Brown

I bet that he does not even once step into an Albatros or even the word 'Albatros' is ever mentioned.

MvR was the most significant single personality in WWI aviation. (Like it or not!) Couldn't the film be made to tell the real story?!

I have toyed with how a very compelling story could be drawn from the books by Kilduff, Susan Hayes and Bodenshantz' memoir. The story could be that of Richthofen the leader, his relationship with Lothar and the dynamic difference between the two, his pilots and men and his influence on the German Air Service. I would include his championing of Anthony Fokker and how this led the fighter competition of Jan 1918 and eventually to the DVII which arrived at the front days after his death. The narrator or key charactor would be Lothar, much in the way Nick Carraway tells the story of the Great Gatsby. His time 'in hospital' would have to be what he has heard from others.
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Ginger- You actually said something nice about the diecast model distributor and I was beginning to wonder. But now my faith is renewed.

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Bad WWI aviation films are better than no WWI aviation films.

I still watch Richthofen vs. Brown on mute.
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Hi,

Yeah, Stephen, I agree. But my reaction when I read the synopsis of this Richthofen epic was a bit different from Ginger's. It was more like:

AAAAAAAAARGH!!

It sounds like 'Flyboys' will be better than this one, even though it is fiction too - but with real WWI airplanes. I hope they have some good flying scenes in this Richthofen film, but I'm doubtful.

"Appoints him as director of the entire air force" ???

"When he saved the life of the Canadian pilot, Lieutenant Brown..."

Oh well...sigh...

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"Appoints him as director of the entire air force" ???
Cheer up, Greg, they MIGHT have given him Ludendorff's rather than von Hoeppner's R.
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Must be based on MvR's reincarnation!

(If you haven't been on this forum for at least five years, just forget that one).
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Glad to see another WWI aviation flick, but I am very disappointed that the production team could not come anywhere close to the actual story.

Shades of Richthofen and Brown
I bet that he does not even once step into an Albatros or even the word 'Albatros' is ever mentioned.

MvR was the most significant single personality in WWI aviation. (Like it or not!) Couldn't the film be made to tell the real story?!
I actually don't agree with the notion that the story has to be absolutely biographically accurate. Really its about the personality. Frankly there really isn't all that much known about these people on a personal level. Richthofen is larger than life so its really a matter of who is acting the part that is going to make or break this film, not the story. In truth, there really is no "real story." I find it promising in that a German company is making it as well, and there are people passionate on the subject involved. I think, if this film is made, it will be surprisingly better than anything else to date.

Flyboys is about some irrelevant(at the time) mercenary pilots from the US. Now that story others seem all too willing to swallow based merely on the notion that its a ww1 flick. I for one actually find that subject matter of Flyboys rather Yaaaaaawwwnnn inducing and that's from someone living in Hollywood.

In this case, subject matter and personality trumps story and biographical accuracy.
 
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Oh and by the way all, its just a synopsis- its not in stone. (Rolls eyes)
 
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