The Red Baron

Laserlloyd · 27 August 2008, 10:31 AM

I have been waiting a long to to hear any new on this for the US but now that it's in DVD release I doubt that I will have a chance to see it on the big screen.

I have been looking for it on some torrent sites and couldn't find anything but once I did a search for Der Rote Baron an not The Red Baron I finally found found it. I hope that I can fine the English version, sub titles would be fin too. I let you know what I think of it.

Lloyd...

tcrean7828 · 27 August 2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zoomzoom

Gee, I'd love to buy a copy....but I don't speak German, or know how to convert euro's to American. Guess I'll have to wait till Amazon offers it here in the states.

Pity it hasn't been released in American theaters either.

ZZ.

Mate,
You may not be able to speak German, but for 10 EU you can get the jest of the movie. Also there are multi-function DVD players out on the net from rep companies for less than $50 american. In other words, plug into your American TV and play the Region 2 disk - sit back with some popcorn and enjoy the flying scenes. I have been doing it for years, even though I speak german, it is still nice to hear it. Sort of refreshing the brain so to speak.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

GrandSon · 27 August 2008, 01:17 PM

Ok, I'm done.

Most of the scenes are shot at sunrise or sunset, Richtofen is living a grand life mostly in various castles but also sometimes under his tent; never wears a dirty uniform, always eats from delicate china, easy life...

Flying action is computer generated (how easy is is to put dozens of planes in the air at the same time, although highly unrealistic). At least Flyboys trajectories were real. These guys have never flown anything but paper planes at best.

Soundtrack: surprise surprise: shot is english as demonstrated by the add-ons and deleted scenes. Meanwhile german version weird, completely studio-generated and dubbed.

Really it does not matter as it is a very poor movie; Flyboys way way better! and we know this is no jewel either!

Think twice; wait for the next movie instead...

GrandSon.

For those really really interested the DVD is distributed by Warner; they must have the rights and power to release an english version. No chance ever to see it on the big screen due to the extremely low entertaining value.

Albatros_Ace · 27 August 2008, 03:47 PM

too bad

Mgnostic · 29 August 2008, 10:07 PM

I watched a downloaded version of the film in German. It has been 25+ years since I had an instructor tell me "Auf Deutch bitte!" but I could follow the plot. It was better that Corman's Baron. It had a lot of the same flaws as "Flyboys". Both films could have used a lot more live action shots. Crowded CGI scenes crop up in both films. Both films manage to screw up real life stories that were entirely dramatic enough in real life. At least "Der Rote Baron" had a wider variety of CGI aircraft and represented some actual people although I'm not sure that they were all flying with MvR. A lot more could have been done the theme of how stressful life was for a combat pilot. The affair with the Nurse was way overdone. "Band of Brothers" proves that you can make a historically based screen play that works without a romance that didn't happen (at least not as portrayed in the movie). There are lots technical things that are incorrect. Rocker arms move at the wrong speeds, Triplanes fly night intercept mission and pilots casually shoot observation balloons with flare guns as they fly by. Those are just a fraction of the glaring errors. But then, The web site quotes the director as saying that he was making a drama not a documentary. Complaints aside it is better than nothing and if it ever shows up on an English language DVD I will probably buy it.

Albatros_Ace · 1 September 2008, 12:41 PM

was it at least more accurate in the paint schemes and the aircraft?

tcrean7828 · 1 September 2008, 01:01 PM

Mates,
I am having one heck of a time ordering 'Der Rote Baron - New' as I keep getting "Dieser Artikel kann leider nicht an den gewünschten Ort versandt werden. Sie können entweder die Versandadresse ändern oder den Artikel aus Ihrer Bestellung löschen, indem Sie die Stückzahl auf 0 setzen und anschließend auf "Aktualisieren" klicken." Roughly translated - no can send to your location.

Anyone in europe know how I can get around this little problem by supplying a company that will ship the wideangle DVD of Der Rote Baron to the USA. I have the pal player to watch it on, just would like the bloody DVD to watch.

Many thanks for the assistance in advance.

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

Laserlloyd · 1 September 2008, 01:15 PM

Well, I finally watched the German version and I had know idea on what they were saying but at least I did watch it. I thought the paint schemes were much better the Flyboys and the flying sequences were OK but why to they have them flying so fast and maneuvers like an F-15 out of Top-Gun.

I think I'll wait for Peter's movie and the new MANFRED movie. at lest I've seen the script on this one and it looks a lot better.

Lloyd...

tcrean7828 · 1 September 2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laserlloyd

Well, I finally watched the German version and I had know idea on what they were saying but at least I did watch it. I thought the paint schemes were much better the Flyboys and the flying sequences were OK but why to they have them flying so fast and maneuvers like an F-15 out of Top-Gun.

I think I'll wait for Peter's movie and the new MANFRED movie. at lest I've seen the script on this one and it looks a lot better.

Lloyd...

Mate,
I must have done a rip-van-winkle - What new MANFRED movie?????

ttfn

tcrean7828

tom

Laserlloyd · 1 September 2008, 01:41 PM

Check out the other thread in t he movie section.

Lloyd...