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22 June 2009, 07:33 AM
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George Southgate
What about the planes?
I had the opportunity to talk to the late Frank Ryder (Ryder rental trucks and inventor) when he appeared at a meeting of the Cross and Cockade in Illinois shortly before is death. He had invited us to his aerodrome collection and fly-in. Had just purchased 6 or 7 of the planes from the Blue Max movie. He told of test flying each plane before letting his pilots fly them. One plane was in such bad shape that he immediately destroyed it after he attempted to fly it. I don't recall what happened to his collection after his death.
George
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22 June 2009, 08:56 AM
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One plane was in such bad shape that he immediately destroyed it after he attempted to fly it.
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They were built in '65 or '66, for, as far as anyone knew, one movie, not for years. One of them crashed during the filming of "Von Richtofen and Brown", killing a pilot. Director/Producer Roger Corman was so upset by his death that he finished the movie early, to be done with it, which may explain why it's not as good as it could have been. That's not the Hollywood way, of course; they have an indifferance to casualties that would appall a Junker.
The movie may not be that creditable; Corman surely was.
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24 June 2009, 12:28 PM
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Scout Pilot
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The Aircraft the was lost durring the filming of Vr and Brown was one of the full size SE5 A/C built for the film, it crashed claiming the life of my father Charles Boddington. The other full size SE5 was also lost in a tragic accident when it collided with the camera helicopter durring filming of "Zeppelin" killing all invoved.
The other Replica's built for the film all survive, the two Pfalz are still flying and are with Peter Jackson in New Zealand, as is one of the DVII's. Another DVII is none airworthy in The Southern museum of Flight in Alabama. The last DVII is currently under restoration at the Stamp Museum in Antwerp. Of the two DR1's, one is airworthy in the UK and the other has just been found after years in the wilderness and is currently being assesed for return to flight.
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24 June 2009, 01:52 PM
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Forum Ace
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For at least a time back in the 90s, one of the BM D.VIIs was at Chino awaiting restoration. The photos in the composite were taken by me in the summer of 97. Dim yet backlit, flash battery decided to go insane.
Robert Karr
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RK’s Pfalzhood - Pfalz, Halberstadt, Nieuport, CAMEL!!!
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24 June 2009, 04:32 PM
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There is also a DVII in The Aeroplane Collection in Richard Wenzl's
Jasta 6 colors with its Gipsy Queen inverted so it could look like a Mercedes engine.
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24 June 2009, 04:35 PM
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Forum Ace
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Originally Posted by Willi Von Klugerman
There is also a DVII in The Aeroplane Collection in Richard Wenzl's
Jasta 6 colors with its Gipsy Queen inverted so it could look like a Mercedes engine.
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That one has since migrated to NZ.
Robert Karr
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RK’s Pfalzhood - Pfalz, Halberstadt, Nieuport, CAMEL!!!
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25 June 2009, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Major Larabee
The Aircraft the was lost durring the filming of Vr and Brown was one of the full size SE5 A/C built for the film, it crashed claiming the life of my father Charles Boddington. The other full size SE5 was also lost in a tragic accident when it collided with the camera helicopter durring filming of "Zeppelin" killing all invoved.
The other Replica's built for the film all survive, the two Pfalz are still flying and are with Peter Jackson in New Zealand, as is one of the DVII's. Another DVII is none airworthy in The Southern museum of Flight in Alabama. The last DVII is currently under restoration at the Stamp Museum in Antwerp. Of the two DR1's, one is airworthy in the UK and the other has just been found after years in the wilderness and is currently being assesed for return to flight.
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Hi M/L,
I remember that incident (putting it mildly) --was 'Skeets' Kelly the cameraman-----or am i mixing my heli. film disasters? Also may i ask if there is a family connection with David Boddington---of DB models fame (and T.V. work etc. etc.)
Dave.
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26 June 2009, 12:32 AM
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Scout Pilot
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Originally Posted by bristol
Hi M/L,
I remember that incident (putting it mildly) --was 'Skeets' Kelly the cameraman-----or am i mixing my heli. film disasters? Also may i ask if there is a family connection with David Boddington---of DB models fame (and T.V. work etc. etc.)
Dave.
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Hi
yes Streets Kelly was killed in the Helicopter along with pilot Gilbert Chomot and producer /dirrector Burch Williams. Pilot of the SE5 Jim Liddy was also killed.
And yes, David is my Uncle.
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26 June 2009, 01:29 AM
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Rest in Peace
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Hi,
An Illustrious family indeed!
Dave
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9 July 2009, 02:13 PM
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[quote=Tom_Cervo;442445]
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[QUOTE=Barrett;440905][B]Kemp[/B] was 31, IMO too old to play a convincing GW airman, though he brought off the role with aplomb. [/QUOTE]
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He had an old face--the acne scars didn't help--but YOU could do a thread, or an article, about the great airmen who couldn't pass the entrance exams, including age, of their modern air forces.
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[B]Loni von Friedl[/B] (Frau Heidemann) now 65, made over 80 movies but TBM was almost her only English language film.
I fancied her more than Ursula--so refined--and then running off in that little gray number at the end. She's held up pretty well:
Photos of Loni von Friedl
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Tom, I've given some thought to that prospect. For starters there's the bespectacled Jagdfliegers Bernet and Wintgens (maybe some others--I don't recall any allied fliers mit glasses). Ed Parsons's book listed the maladies of some LFC chaps upon transferring to the USAS, including respiratory glitches and rhumatism.
Thing is: most of those guys could've gotten exempted from service but chose to remain in combat.
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