So whats the Red Baron film like?

[LeicesterTiger]

Well, she wasn't that much of a looker, maybe they mistook her for Moritz

[Baron Von Quinnthar]

The Red Barn Film is visual treat, The best CGI in any flying film Ive seen, this is a treat for any flying buff.And Really to the idiot that says this film is bad ou are so stupid. It delivers an amazing visual feast of Authenic fighters, Aces in Jasta 11 .it Sows the Baron starting in a d.111 . This film got my love for this era of fying rekindled, to the guy that openned the reply to the original post wake up mate and check out all the crap thats out there and you'll see this film stands up, and if you haven't seen it do, You'll love it.

Best Film since "Ace's High" 9/10

[Baron Von Quinnthar]

Mate, We should be greatfull that they have even made a ww1 flying movie. I was so greatfull for this film, the cgi is great and the story is fine, What do you whingers want!

[pghaddick]

Hello,

I notice that the U.K. version of the DVD has a run time of 102 minutes, as opposed to the German version which is 124 minutes, I can only hope it has been re edited to be more historically accurate, show more combat and less love story but knowing my luck it will be the other way round, (no combat and more romance!)

Cheers

PGH

[Blackclaw]

One of my friends is involved in local film and got the chance to talk with the problem. Apparently the budget for the film was a major issue. In many ways, it is an unfinished film.

The cgi that is shown is excellent. However key scenes that would explain some of the transitions are simply missing. For example, when the Baron runs up to Hawker's downed aircraft, unless you are up on the history of the event, you have no idea what happened. The fight between Hawker and the Baron is not shown. It would be easy to see someone making the assumption that the Baron ran up to an aircraft accident scene and looted it.

So there are a few moments of "that looked incredible" a few brilliant scenes, and a lot of "what the hell just happened?", "When is this?" and "Who is that suppose to be?"

[FliegerJG1]

A review of this movie that I found in Google news items indicated that it will be released in Great Britain, September 9, 2009. Love it or hate it, the film is still circulating.

FliegerJG1

[Pete Hill]

One thing that Der Rote Baron has in common with an earlier WW1 air-war film, namely 'Von Richthofen & Brown' from 1971, is that Lanoe Hawker is portrayed in both as both fighting and dying whilst flying an SE5. At least the earlier film had the excuse that at that time, no airworthy vintage DH2s were available and CGI was still in the future. But the Red Baron, with its impressive CGI capable of recreating any aircraft of the past, has no such excuse.
One theory is that film-makers probably have the attitude that the DH2, whilst its qualities may be well-known to the aviation buffs, would look fragile and quaint to the ordinary 'layman' film-goer. To an audience member with little or no prior knowledge of WW1 aviation, the DH2 would look like something out of 'Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines'. They would wonder how the Baron could ever have such a hard time bringing down something that looked as about as threatening as a glider constructed out of matchsticks and glue.
Many war and historical films have taken liberties like these in order to make a story more easier to understand and more agreeable to the majority of cinema-patrons who come to a film with little or no prior knowledge of the historical events they are witnessing being depicted on screen. The downside of this is that certain film-makers can distort or even falsify history and ensure that audiences come away with a slanted or in-correct view of the events portrayed.
Many liberties and instances of poetic license may be niggling to aviation and historical buffs but are pretty much harmless. Take one example such as the recent film 'Pearl Harbour' (2001) in which the Mitsubishi Zeros were painted olive-green, instead of the more accurate pale-grey. The director Michael Bay acknowledged the error but he admitted that the Zeros had been depicted thus so as to make it easier for the cinema audiences to recognise which were the Japanese fighters and which were the bombers.
But then there are those instances where historical liberties in films are not so harmless. One example is the recent Japanese WW2 film 'To Those We Love' (2007) which is about a squadron of Army Kamikaze Pilots in 1945. A scene depicting a group of senior Japanese commanders planning an attack has one officer lamenting sadly on the looming defeat of his nation, "We only wished to make the Pacific free for all Asian Peoples"..... Anyone with a any degree of knowledge on the Pacific war must know what a self-serving, fact-distorting historical furphy that line of dialogue was, given that the numbers of people of South-East Asia who perished under Japanese occupation ran into the millions. Yet, many young Japanese would see that movie and such scenes would reinforce the distorted view that many have of their nation's role in WW2, namely the view that Japan was the mis-understood victim of American aggression and imperialism.
That is the big issue with war films, there is always the struggle between truth and entertainment and often the two do not see eye-to-eye.
Pete.

[Baron Von Quinnthar]

In the Australian version on DVD and Blu-ray they have gone with a 94 minute version that has longer air battles at the start, it also shows the battle with Hawker before he comes across his downed aircraft on the railway tracks it far better edited then the Long Euro version. They are releasing it at the end of 2009. thru Eagle Entertainment.

[stevedrew]

Baron,

Eagle Entertainment are releasing it on DVD and BluRay in January 2010. You wust have mis-read the coming attractions page.

[Baron Von Quinnthar]

Sorry about typo's my keyboard is so bad, with keys not workng.