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11 September 2009, 07:31 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
Join Date: Jan 2006
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January 2010? I'll have to put that down on my calendar. I guess I'm easy to please- and like someone said, I'm just glad that somebody's bothered to even make new WW1 movies... even if they aren't in the same league as Wings.
Still waiting to see if Peter Jackson will tackle the Blue Max.
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25 October 2009, 04:48 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
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I have been watching the Region 2 DVD of the Red Baron which was recently released in the UK - it is some twenty minutes shorter than a version which I had seen previously. It has some of the battle scenes re-edited, and supposedly now shows Hawker being shot down, however this is cut together from several different scenes with the result that Hawker's machine is now portrayed by: SE.5, RE.8, Camel and Albatros...(yes, Albatros). People who aren't interested in WWI flying machines wouldn't notice, but it really irks me! The best thing that can be said about the shorter cut is that it increases the ratio between exciting flying action and boring, badly written dialogue scenes. Unfortunately the flying scenes no longer make sense to WWI aviation fans - the glitch mentioned above is not the only such occurence.
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25 October 2009, 10:35 AM
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Before I saw Flyboys I received advice to "park my brain under my seat" and enjoy the movie; it worked. However, there ain't enough room under the seat for this one.
Mind you, I'm not ragging on a movie I haven't seen nor will ever see. I'm just wise enough to avoid something that I know will annoy me from start-to-finish, based on the multi extensive reviews I've read. Not the "I hated this movie" reviews, because I don't base my interests on what others think, but those reviews that detailed the movie's plot. Somewhere on these fora there's a very lengthy review like that and, now that I'm remembering what was written, I concede that if I watched the movie I might derive some comedic pleasure from it. Especially back when I was still bending an elbow.
There's still so much historic WW1 information I've yet to learn that I just don't have time for the mega-fiction.
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25 October 2009, 01:07 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wausau, WI
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Wausau Downtown Airport has free movie night that starts the first Tuesday of October and runs through March or April (depending on when the liht gets enough to fly after 6 PM and the snow recedes enough to get off the ground...but I digress). Sid showed the movie this week, and I dropped in to see it.
I was one of those that thought I would "never lower myself to see such drivel", but after seeing it, while all the complaints above are true, there was a quality to it that made it worthwhile. Not great, but entertaining. I wanted it to be the "Chronicles of Narnia" or ""Spiderman" of WW-1, but it wasn't. SO what? Did I see some great paint schemes? yeppers. Did I see Lothar transition from an idolizer of his brother to a typically overly impassioned idealistic pilot to a realist with his beloved cousin (all apparently true)? Absolutely. And I have not seen that kind of subtlety of development in any other movie.
I had to look hard, but the look was worth it. Do I want better? Oh, yeah. But do we really expect clear insight and realism from the segment of our various societies that are the least connected with living in reality? So, GO! Enjoy! Then go fly a real plane to cleanse yourself in the real skies.
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in Honor of Albert Ball.
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25 October 2009, 04:01 PM
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Observer
Join Date: Mar 2008
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I have a region 2 DVD from Germany I'd sell. $20.00
Mike
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27 October 2009, 12:31 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 55
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Well Said Ball
That is exactly the case, What you said was right on the money, RAF56 Ball. I thought the same thing, great special effects with the occasional peice of artistic licence. I just sat back and marvelled at the wonderful Red Albatross, and went wow the first red baron movie were he flys a Bi-plane, it's the first one i've seen with voss, wolf, lothar udet (Black and white Dr.1 Ballloon scene) and others shown, wonderful colours rendering lighting, you guys who are neging out about this movie need to realise, Nothing is ever going to be depicted historically 100%, you need to let go, and just enjoy something that was obviously made with alot of love and care, A film that made the most of a limited budget which was 18,000,000 compared to "Flyboys" with a budget of 60,000,000, and in Flyboys most people would agree was lacking in a big way with regards to historical accuracy and also the special effects in "Flyboys" was found wanting compared to the Red Baron whhich most people would agree was far better. So I think if you love this era of aviation, just put those pent up Historical Brains in check and enjoy the movie. It's far better than alot of the crap coming out of hollywood these days. Come On!
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6 November 2009, 04:40 AM
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Two-seater Pilot
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chieti
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Richtofen temper is ... not the right one :P Expecially when they pretended to avoid to hit the pilots, or scolded Lothar for having pursued that plane to the ground, or childish attitude.
Nice Albatros reconstruction, horrible scenes, with no laws of physics in glides, crashes, climbs, dives. Lanoe Hawker seems a drunk priest, despite his classy and gallant man which comes out from photos and documents. The Se5a with the scythe+skull was so ridicolous....
Flyboys is bad, nad this one is bad too. I am stunned on how better are the movies from decades ago instead of these last two. Sure technology doesn't improve quality.
I was expecting something much more better. Well... the nurse is hot at least. You can have a watch, and then forget it forever. Argh.
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19 November 2009, 05:24 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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When is it comming to U.S.
I'm not up on my reading here so i'm not sure if someome said when it will be avalalbe. Now on to movie talk: I belive any one under 50 yrs.old have no sense of history! I went back to school and I could not belive the kids in the classes. I would think that anyone thinkig about making a W.W.I airwar movie would watch the" Blue Max" this movie is well balanced between airaction and the love story. yes the thing about class privilege is not a german thing as much as a British one back then. I think the age factor worked better with older actors. war ages one very fast it also gave them more maturity of the time. the NEW movies are liken to combic book action with modren day inmaturity. the air combat in flyboys made me cringe!! the story was fair. Cheers Baronred4
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19 November 2009, 06:26 PM
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Not seen the movie yet.I do dig Brown's spectacles that he wears in flight
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19 November 2009, 07:41 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Willi Von Klugerman
Not seen the movie yet.I do dig Brown's spectacles that he wears in flight 
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