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4 September 2007, 12:27 PM
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Scout Pilot
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Were germans in ww1 always civilized?
I know that germans in ww1 were more civilized than in ww2,but I heard they did some un-civilized things.What did they do,I always wondered what it was.
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4 September 2007, 02:29 PM
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Consult a history web site.
Better yet, read a book on the subject!
BETTER yet, BUY a book!

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4 September 2007, 02:42 PM
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Imperial Germany and the Great War 1914-1918
This book by Roger Chickering looks at the war on the battlefield and on the homefront. 
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4 September 2007, 04:26 PM
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Related, but concerning a different ethnicity....
You should check out "Warriors of the Rising Sun" by Robert Edgerton. He details how a military praised for its humanity in WWI became the antithesis of humane in WWII. There are interesting parallels between the downward slide of the Japanese and that of the Germans between the major conflicts.
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4 September 2007, 10:14 PM
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Nope
Nope Willi, they weren't called Huns for nothing I'm afraid. On the whole though considering the size of their Army and the length of the war, they did as well as I think can be expected.
However as in all armies there were lapses especially in Belgium early on but it was nowhere as bad as the Allied propaganda made it out to be. The fact that the Hague wasn't clogged with war crimes trails thoughout the 1920s and 1930s speaks for itself.
It is interesting to note that Anne Frank's (of WW II diary fame) father served in the German Army as an artilleryman. VR, Roadhog
PS Mike-That same topic of Japanese military cruelty and cannibalism id dealt with at length in Bradley's book "Flyboys."
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5 September 2007, 07:19 AM
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I read the book Warriors Of The Rising Sun. It was very interesting! The Japanese were known for their extreme cruelty in WWII, but in previous wars of the 20th Century and before they had been known to be extremely humane. This book goes into this and explores why the change in the Japanese military in so short a time.
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5 September 2007, 08:47 AM
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One of the influential naval books between the wars was a novel called The Great Pacific War by a Brit, Hector Bywater. Published late 20s or early 30s. In it he describes the Japanese as known for their chivalry, which apparently was fairly accurate when he wrote it.
As for Flyboys--"Zeus, Apollo, kill!"
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5 September 2007, 09:15 AM
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In a previous existence, I worked the midnight shift in a factory in Joisey. Our supervisor was of German descent, and we called him "the Hun" (jokingly, gentlemen, jokingly).
One evening, during the shift change, I mentioned "the Hun" in front of a swing shift member, a Hungarian who fled during the insurrection of five-six. He went ballistic....."Bullshit! Huns are Hungarian. Atilla vas Hun, Germans are not Huns. Den dey vas Magyars." I tink it's callt "ethnic pride", dollink.
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5 September 2007, 01:21 PM
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Mikey, You Got Me All Wrong!
Why Mikey, Who wouldn't relish the idea of being called a hun? As a matter of fact I have nicknamed my own hausfrau "Fiona the hun." See? Your pal, Scott
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5 September 2007, 02:31 PM
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I was called "Hun" so many times by aging waitresses in cheap diners I was starting to think I was Aryan.

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