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7 August 2012, 04:05 PM
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Breguet's 1919-1939 Challenge #236
Sorry for the tiny photo, but the larger ones are too easy.
Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #235: Focke-Wulf A 40 aka FW 40 (Germany, 1932)
51.00 richard B
35.70 Dave_Kent
32.50 Rbailey
26.50 Varese2002
22.00 Tork1945
12.00 YavorD
10.50 Froggy
07.50 sobrien
07.00 DHC2Pilot
05.00 aerohydro
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(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
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03.80 Doc
03.00 Aquilius
03.00 Wind in The Wires
03.80 Doc
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Lodzermensch
02.00 Sreiko
01.00 JoeGertler
Previous: Breguet's 1919-1939 Aircraft ID Challenge
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The Rules
1.The thread title must be "Breguet's 1919-1939 Aircraft ID Challenge #......" AND must be placed in the Non-WWI Aviation sub-Forum.
2.The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3.The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '1919-1939 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4.The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5.Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1919-1939* -* Breguet's -Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !).
6.If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7.Once someone has gotten 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8.To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9.The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10.If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11.The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is Breguet.
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7 August 2012, 10:03 PM
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Posted too soon. Me bad!
Last edited by aerohydro; 7 August 2012 at 10:08 PM.
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8 August 2012, 09:50 AM
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Is this one still "live" or was the answer posted early and pulled, making it a Rule 10?
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8 August 2012, 11:10 AM
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I have no idea what answer was posted. The rules seem mute on an ace posting the wrong answer too soon, or erasing a correct answer before it is viewed. Did anyone see it? A wrong answer might discourage someone else from trying, but in this case I am inclined to go the "no harm, no foul" route and see what happens.
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8 August 2012, 11:23 AM
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I also did't see the answer, so can't say if it was right or wrong.
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8 August 2012, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rbailey
Sorry for the tiny photo, but the larger ones are too easy.
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It was tough enough. This is the Miami Maid Amphibian, circa 1929, and is identifiable by the humongous radial engine that's powering it. A cache of photos and periodical articles can be found here:
Miami Maid Amphibian MM201 Cheers,
Paul
EDIT: Above is the original text of the post I'd done, but then deleted. I pulled it after a few minutes, once I realised that I'd been 'elevated' to the Ace status, and should've waited till the 12 hour mark had been reached. There was no-one else viewing this part of the forum at the time of my original posting. Am happy to leave the question of points, etc, to others to decide upon.
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8 August 2012, 01:36 PM
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I am inclined to award the point, but I will let Brequet make the final decision. Meanwhile, Paul can be deciding on the next challenge.
But I just noticed - it is the Miami Maid, but according to Aerofiles, the MM201 was a different machine.
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8 August 2012, 02:45 PM
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Ron, the link I gave earlier contained text headers that indicated the model name for the Miami Maid Amphibian was the MM201, and that it had the registration of NC619. Aerofiles, although it contains a wealth of information, sometimes isn't the most authoritative. I'm not sure which of the two sources is correct.
For the next Challenge, I've already selected what I think is a rare machine, but whether I can use it is dependent on Breguet's response. Per rule 10, if no points are awarded, the next Challenge is supposed to be an easy one.
Cheers,
Paul
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9 August 2012, 01:16 PM
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As the answer was up for 5 mins before being erased I think rule #10 will, reluctantly, have to be applied.
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9 August 2012, 01:23 PM
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Breguet has spoken. Sorry, Paul.
Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #236: Miami Maid amphibian of 1929; MM 200 or 201 - exact number in dispute; disqualified due to too early answer.
51.00 richard B
35.70 Dave_Kent
32.50 Rbailey
26.50 Varese2002
22.00 Tork1945
12.00 YavorD
10.50 Froggy
07.50 sobrien
07.00 DHC2Pilot
05.00 aerohydro
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(those above this section must wait 12 hours before answering,
those below - and everyone else - may answer immediately)
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03.80 Doc
03.00 Aquilius
03.00 Wind in The Wires
03.80 Doc
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Lodzermensch
02.00 Sreiko
01.00 JoeGertler
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