Rhinebeck Museum trouble

[womenfly2]

B Dr.1,

I would be careful here, you made a lot of assumptions about the reporter. This could backfire.

Also, since this is based on a pending allegation with the state of NY. You may want to run your e-mail by the people filing such a claim for approval.

Did they authorize anyone to reply?

Just a thought here. Unless you are one of the partitioner's.

Originally Posted by womenfly2

B Dr.1,

I would be careful here, you made a lot of assumptions about the reporter. This could backfire.

Also, since this is based on a pending allegation with the state of NY. You may want to run your e-mail by the people filing such a claim for approval.

Did they authorize anyone to reply?

Just a thought here. Unless you are one of the partitioner's.

The folks who petitioned the State of NY's Board of Regents have no say on what an individual might post here or say to the reporter who wrote the article mentioned. Certainly, it is worth being careful about what a person writes or says inregards to ORA, since it would be a shame if it caused problems for the petition, or this thread. Especially on this thread, we also have "MOM" to wash our posts out with soap if we get "Mouthy" beyond what is reasonable. It a dirty job, but someone has to do it.

Have a nice day!

[Fokker Ace]

Typical fluff piece many newspapers run in order to:
1. Keep advertisers happy
2. Do their part for local chambers' of commerce
3. Fill space
4. See number 1.

Anyone with even a basic understanding of journalism must realize the events of the last couple seasons - several cashes and a fatality - would need to be mentioned, even in passing, if this were anything more than a PR piece to promote the region. They don't need to write a scathing expose, but certainly a mention of more than rainy weekends would be in order.

Hopefully this ran in a special section of the paper and not on a "news" page. If not, I feel for the people who rely on that newspaper as a news source.

[Bob Laske]

I hate to defend the reporter but lets face it, if youre sent to cover something called the Excellence in Business awards or whatever it was called, youre basically doing a puff piece. Grab a few quotes from Hugh doing his typical impersonation of the mayor from Jaws, lift a few lines from the guy who writes the propaganda, fill up the rest of the space with the history of the aerodrome then call it a day. What bothers me is the guy in charge of crashville has the nerve to blame the weather for a crummy 2009.

[tazbat]

I have no doubt Bitz Dr1 that the reporter was used as a tool in opposition to this thread. But, she probably is clueless to the fact. As you said, ORA is inhabited by a bunch of high fa-lootin socialites. And as most will agree, a small town newspaper can be highly influenced by the local socialites. This news article appears to be such a move. Another purpose of this article and several others this and last year could be to try to get in good standing with the local folks. It is no secret that since 2003, the management has been branded like criminals used to be. So, with their local social influences they use the town paper to counter act the soiled image. Thing about the common folks is they aren't as stupid as the upper crust thinks. But, it isn't them that worries the well to do. It is those of their class that might be influenced by the dirty little tales they hear in public, or might read online. Those are the ones they are trying to impress with their carefully directed article.

Although ORA was selected for a Special Achievement Award, I didn't read what that was. My guess is that the award thing was just another example of high minded direction. The Socialite world gets off on busying themselves by patting one another on the back. They have to stick together against the common people who might not see the comunity or world as they do.

As for Hugh who said...

"It’s unique," he said. "There are other museums, but they are static. The typical museum — you go and look at the plaques. ... We have four hangars of airplanes in the museum, but most people come for the action, the sights, the sounds; the smells are so unique. It’s a part of history you can’t enjoy anywhere else."

I think he should surf the web a little. In Maine is Owl's Head, In England is Shuttleworth, in New Zealand is Omaka, in Hammondsport is the Curtiss Wright Museum, etc. So, I agree with Air Male that Hugh is indeed impressed by his own voice.

Nothing would please more than to see the NY State Museum Charters Office get off its ass and send the whole lot of them packing. But, if the truth were known and it was that the people in the State agencies were lovingly held captive in the pockets of the trustees or some of their socialite friends, it wouldn't surprise me. ORA isn't the first big aviation blunder under the belt of the Museum Charters Office.

Nuff said. I hope "Mom", that this doesn't offend.

Salute!

[AAC Cadet Leader]

"Mom" is not offended, however comma...
let's not shoot the messenger, that being the reporter. she was sent to do a short cover piece for the "excellence award." i called her this morning and she was aware of the recent crashes and fatality last year, but didn't think it fit with this short article assignment she was given. she is however interested in doing an investigative piece, reading our petition and hearing both sides. so mind your Ps and Qs.

i sent her links to the petition pages and this thread. just hope she doesn't want to read the whole thread before starting her article.

[SteveS]

Originally Posted by Bob Laske

I hate to defend the reporter but lets face it, if youre sent to cover something called the Excellence in Business awards or whatever it was called, youre basically doing a puff piece. Grab a few quotes from Hugh doing his typical impersonation of the mayor from Jaws, lift a few lines from the guy who writes the propaganda, fill up the rest of the space with the history of the aerodrome then call it a day. What bothers me is the guy in charge of crashville has the nerve to blame the weather for a crummy 2009.

Almost every article or video on the Aerodrome in the last few years is riddled with errors. I must place some of the blame with reporters who don’t do their homework and just accept anything their told as fact. Some are inexperienced making mistakes along the way and some I think are happy to just have something to show their bosses. The others to blame are those who give the incorrect info to the reporter. Some are minor, some not so.

Such as these examples:

The museum was founded by Cole Palen as a nonprofit foundation. He arrived in northern Dutchess in 1958 to buy an abandoned farm and hack out a crude runway on a hilltop.

ORA was a hilltop? Where did Cole put all the dirt?

"We also participated in the quadricentennial to a great extent," Schoelzel said. "We recreated the Wright Brothers’ flight in 1909."

Please correct me, but didn’t Wilbur Wight fly around lower Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty for the Hudson celebration in 1909? So just what flight did they recreate? Not Wilburs! To my knowledge, he didn’t fly “that” far north.

At least this time, they got the pilot right. Last time this was told (in a CNN iReport video no less!) by one representing the Aerodrome, it was Charles Lindbergh who flew over the Hudson celebrations. He would have been seven at the time. LOL

Salute,
Steve

[tazbat]

Originally Posted by AAC Cadet Leader

...
let's not shoot the messenger, that being the reporter. she was sent to do a short cover piece for the "excellence award." i called her this morning and she was aware of the recent crashes and fatality last year, but didn't think it fit with this short article assignment she was given...

I fully agree. In my previous comment, I had intended to say something along the same line but got side tracked.

Steve is correct that a reporter should be informed on what they are writing about. But, the article she wrote wasn't an investigative type. It was a society column type. It was written to titillate those who are more... aristocratic?

Salute!

[Bitz Dr1]

I have made no phone calls, or e-mails. I will stay out of it altogether, but I do know that there are a lot of folks, some at that paper, that are directly involved in covering up the malarchy at the ORA.

Again, I have not, nor will I contact anyone on this topic.
Hats off to those that are in the trenches.

Originally Posted by Bitz Dr1

I have made no phone calls, or e-mails. I will stay out of it altogether, but I do know that there are a lot of folks, some at that paper, that are directly involved in covering up the malarchy at the ORA...

Hey Bitz
Don't get too sensitive on us. Your recent experience of trying to communicate with the trustees has reinforced what many have said in this thread. The trustees aren't trust worthy. And in the last six years haven't made any attempts in being any more so.

You don't have to have any ones permission to exercise your freedom of speech whether it be with the reporter of the Journal or on this thread (within the scope and rules herein).

Stick with us. Someday the trustees are gonna lose their hold on ORA, just like all other regimes have eventually ceased to rule. Let's just hope that there will still be an ORA to live on afterwards.

Your experience with them has shown that they treat outsiders the same as the treated the Old Guard and volunteers.

I said this a long time back... the trustees and friends want to have their own little pilots club, with their own private runway and free hangars. I only suspected this but you proved it. Bravo!