Fokker D.VII

[PFFF]

On this page of Fokker D VII's Fokker D.VII - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Of First/second/third photos,-what unit/pilots?
Of Fourth photo-Goering's aircraft?
Of Fifth photo-"RK" of Jasta 66?

also of on website Brome County Historical Society Museum Fokker D VII German WWI Biplane

history?

[Cliff]

1. Fok.D.VII (OAW) 4523/18 - Ltn. R. Stark - Jasta 35b
2. Looks like post war booty?
3. Fok. D.VII F461/18
4. Goering's D.VII F5125/18 - Jasta 11
5. Fok.D.VII(Alb) 5324/18 - Richard Kraut - Jasta 63

6.Brome county - Fok.D.VII(Alb) 6810/18 - War record unknown, trophy sent to Canada after the war. Donated to the Brome County Historical Museum in 1921. Extensive repairs in 1963. Most authentic surviving D.VII in existance.

Cliff

[StephenLawson]

Late model OAW with Mercedes D.IIIaü 180hp (with the stand up air pump)and Axial propeller. No guns no fuselage or rudder crosses and no serial numbers. Five colour lozenge camouflage fabric. Mauve and green metal cowling panels. It is probably a machine at the factory at Schneidemuhl before being accepted by the military. Late Summer 1918, best guess.

[PFFF]

Thanks for the info! Correct

[Alien]

Originally Posted by StephenLawson

Late model OAW with Mercedes D.IIIaü 180hp (with the stand up air pump).

I was under the impression that the Mercedes D IIIau generated 200hp and that the 180hp motor was a late model D IIIa.

Comments?

[StephenLawson]

Originally Posted by Alien

I was under the impression that the Mercedes D IIIau generated 200hp and that the 180hp motor was a late model D IIIa. Comments?

Greetings Alien; First we have to understand that the identities we are speaking of don't exist in the Diamler labelling system. The basic engine is 1466 and the next step up is the 1466a. The 1466 includes Mercedes D.III160 - D.IIIa 170hp motors the 1466a includes 180hp and upto but does not include the D.IV series. There were several improvements with in each series of engines. If you check into the search engine you will see how complex the issue can be. What we call the D.IIIav is often labeled the 200hp. Here is a bit of fun from Aerodrome member Patrick D on the subject. He allowed me to post it on another forum and even brought in some corrections.

Lets look at Fokker D.VII 382/18 Jasta 15 assigned to Ltn. Georg von Hantlemann. Ltn. Kurt Wustoff was brought down in this aircraft on June 17, 1918 (90 years ago mind you.) It was found to have an inline Mercedes stamped with the serial 41245. Initially identified as a 160hp by its captors. Then then RAF noted the higher comperssion ratio and high altitude carb as a 180hp. Later it was again revised by the RAF to 200hp after further tests.

As Dan San Abbott has said earlier '...The overall height from the center line to the top of the cam gear housing of;
Mercedes D.III & D.IIIa is 665mm
Mercedes D.IIIaü & D.IIIav is 670 mm...
BMW IIIa is 687 mm. 17 mm=.68 inches, just a bit under 11/16of an inch...'



The Mercedes D motors 1915 -1918