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21 November 2009, 05:00 AM
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So if you want to murder someone--but are afraid to attempt it in case that person (who has a big gun) kill's you instead--you are refraining from murderous acts because of your 'humanitarian' sensibilities!!
Well---now that is a funny feeling indeed!
Dave.
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You hear some funny things here Ginger
Dave.
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21 November 2009, 05:46 AM
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You hear some funny things here Ginger
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21 November 2009, 07:13 AM
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Visiting the Sites
Bucky, I did go to the area of the Royal Hospital, Chelsea, but didn't know what to look for. Thank you for sending the photos.
Marc, I saw no plaque indicating what had happened at Warrington Crescent, though I did walk around the area a lot and took quite a few pictures. There was at least one historical marker on a house on that street indicating that someone famous had lived there. (I don't remember who; it was a number of years ago and I can't immediately lay my hands on the photos I took.)
I've heard that there is at least one company that now offers tours of WWI bombing sites in London. They go to places like Cleopatra's Needle and the Dolphin Pub, etc. I did all my touring by following the 1937 book "War on Great Cities", by Frank Morison. I imagine they use the same source as a starting point.
There is a more recent book which is excellent that lists sites of interest in London and the rest of Britain: Thomas Fegan's "The 'Baby Killers': German Air Raids on Britain in the First World War", Pen & Sword, 2002.
--Steve
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21 November 2009, 07:21 AM
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If you own "First Blitz" by Neal Hanson please be aware that the diagram of the Elektron incendiary is NOT that of an 1918 device. The shown diagram is copied from "Deutsche Abwurfmunition bis 1945" by Wolfgang Fleischer (without any acknowledgement) and is an incendary B-1 used in World War II.
It seems so as if the Elektronbombe is one of the last secrets of WWI, but this here seems not to be the right place for a discussion.
From the documents:
"Nach den Versuchswürfen in Havay scheint ein Einsatz von 3-4000 Brandbomben bei einer Stadt wie Calais, von etwa 15 000 Brandbomben bei einer Stadt... ausreichend zur Zerstörung mindestens eines beträchlichen Teiles der Stadt, vorausgesetzt, dass...".
The Elektronbombe is of easy construction and easy to copy with a little chemical understanding, nothing to show here our fiery boys.
ManfredT
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21 November 2009, 07:47 AM
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If you own "First Blitz" by Neal Hanson please be aware that the diagram of the Elektron incendiary is NOT that of an 1918 device. The shown diagram is copied from "Deutsche Abwurfmunition bis 1945" by Wolfgang Fleischer (without any acknowledgement) and is an incendary B-1 used in World War II.
It seems so as if the Elektronbombe is one of the last secrets of WWI, but this here seems not to be the right place for a discussion.
From the documents:
"Nach den Versuchswürfen in Havay scheint ein Einsatz von 3-4000 Brandbomben bei einer Stadt wie Calais, von etwa 15 000 Brandbomben bei einer Stadt... ausreichend zur Zerstörung mindestens eines beträchlichen Teiles der Stadt, vorausgesetzt, dass...".
The Elektronbombe is of easy construction and easy to copy with a little chemical understanding, nothing to show here our fiery boys.
ManfredT
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"not the right place for a discussion" Well it's your thread, you wanted the discussion----but even now, after all the rubbish and 'sound bites'--- this is it!---- Manfred, please!
A picture in a book is wrongly captioned---wow! never seen that before!
A bounder of an author did'nt credit a Wartime German Diagram---well who won the war!
Some German writing!
And a comment on how easy it is to make!
Well, I for one am glad we finally 'got to the bottom of all of this'
I've learned an awful lot!
Dave.
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21 November 2009, 08:40 AM
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...It seems so as if the Elektronbombe is one of the last secrets of WWI, but this here seems not to be the right place for a discussion.
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ManfredT
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Manfred,
As Dave suggested, 76 posts later, it looks like you're dedicated to keeping the E-bomb a secret! 
Is there any more info you can share? I for one don't plan to build one at home! 
marc
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21 November 2009, 09:00 AM
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marc,
und plötzlich, WUFF, steh' ich in Flammen, bei soviel Deutschenhasser.
ManfredT
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21 November 2009, 09:08 AM
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marc,
und plötzlich, WUFF, steh' ich in Flammen, bei soviel Deutschenhasser. 
ManfredT
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Nein, doch nicht. Du uebertreibst! Die Tommies lassen sich ab und zu aufregen aber sie meinen es gut.
Keep the dialogue going!
marc
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21 November 2009, 11:08 AM
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und plötzlich, WUFF, steh' ich in Flammen, bei soviel Deutschenhasser. 
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Coming from the most blatant Anglophobe I've ever come across in my life, that's pretty rich, Manfred!
I have no ill feeling toward Germans whatsoever, or German revisionist historians for that matter...I just happen to think that some of your historical views need, er...revising.
Best wishes.
Bucky
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21 November 2009, 11:36 AM
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marc,
und plötzlich, WUFF, steh' ich in Flammen, bei soviel Deutschenhasser.
ManfredT
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In the summer of 1940 if the Luftwaffe had got a thousand four engined heavy bombers each with a 22,000Ib payload, what would have happened to the towns and cities of Great Britain?

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