The KEK's revisited, again

[Regulus]

Hi,

Untill now I have found the following KEK's and Fokkerstaffels :

- KEK 1 ???
- KEK 2 ???
- KEK 3 - KEK Lille (Phalempin)
- KEK Avillers (KEK Ost)
- KEK Bantheville (stationed at Martincourt ???? doubtfull ! big distance !)
- KEK Cunel
- KEK Douai (Roucourt)
- KEK Ensisheim (Colmar)
- KEK Habsheim
- KEK Jametz
- KEK Metz
- KEK Nord (Bapaume-Bertincourt) or Abwehr Kommando Nord
- KEK Sivry
- KEK Stenay
- KEK Vaux (Roupy)
- KEK Vouziers
- KEK West (Vaux Ferme/Laon)

- KEK Mannheim
- KEK Trier

- Marine KEK (Nieuwmunster)

- Fokker-Kampfstaffel des Hauptquartiers des Oberkommandos (???)
- Fokkerstaffel Chassogne Ferme (between Aincreville and Villers-devant-Dun and Andevanne also very close to Bantheville !!!)
- Fokkerstaffel Falkenhausen or Fokker Kampfflieger-Abteilung A
- Fokkerstaffel Martincourt (= KEK Bantheville ?????)
- Fokkerstaffel Ost of 7 th army (Saint-Erme)
- Fokkerstaffel Porcher

All remarks are most welcome !!!

Thanks and best from Johan

[frontflieger]

Hi Johan,

have a look here: KEK . Though the list is not complete and some gaps must be filled.

Thorsten

[Regulus]

Hallo Thorsten !

To be honest I already did, as usually your site is a good start to find more on the personnel of these units !

Thanks !

Best from Johan

[Regulus]

Hi

Some small additions

KEK Bantheville seems to have been stationed at Bantheville and Martincourt.

KEK Ensisheim was stationed at Ensisheim and Colmar Nord if I'm not mistaken.

KEK West was Faubourg de Laon, Vaux


So far we located exactly :

Phalempin (Lille), Cunel, Roucourt and La Brayelle (Douai), Ensisheim and Colmar Nord, Nord (Bertincourt), Falkenhausen (Buhl), Habsheim, Metz (Frescaty), Porcher, Vaux (Roupy), Sivry, Stenay, Nieuwmunster, Chassogne Ferme


Approximately :

Bantheville, Martincourt, Saint-Erme (Ost), Vouziers


Still to go :

KEK 1 and 2 3rd Army, Avillers, Jametz, Mannheim, Trier

Any clues to the location of these airfields are welcome !


Best from Johan

[john-paul2]

Mannheim is in Gorrell's. I can't see it because fold3 wants the premium account now. Anyway,I went through it before that and I have it listed at N 49'30'10' E-8'28'25' . It's some kind of industrial site these days.

[Regulus]

John-Paul, thank you very much for this, another one more to add to the list !!!

Great !

Best from Johan

[MBowden23]

prereorganization and creation of the jastas.. Fa(a).. Etc. What were the different classifications of the aviation units did the "flying detachments" that were attached to the various army and corps in 1914 get reorganized into the FAs and keks or were there kek, fa's and flying detachments still in late 1915 up till von hoeppner's reorganization in fall of 16. I am trying to make a flow chart or from august 1914 thru end of the war and finding definite Orders of battle for the luftstreitkrafte pre fall 1916 is tricky.. My understanding is there were keks, fa's and the carrier pigion units as the front line air units at the time of reorganization.. Am i missing anyother types?

[Raineranton]

Originally Posted by MBowden23

prereorganization and creation of the jastas.. Fa(a).. Etc. What were the different classifications of the aviation units did the "flying detachments" that were attached to the various army and corps in 1914 get reorganized into the FAs and keks or were there kek, fa's and flying detachments still in late 1915 up till von hoeppner's reorganization in fall of 16. I am trying to make a flow chart or from august 1914 thru end of the war and finding definite Orders of battle for the luftstreitkrafte pre fall 1916 is tricky.. My understanding is there were keks, fa's and the carrier pigion units as the front line air units at the time of reorganization.. Am i missing anyother types?

Hi Matt,

the right designtion of the German two-seater units before the reorganisation in fall/winter 1916/17 is Feldflieger-Abteilung (FFA) and Artillerieflieger-Abteilungen (AFA's) The Flieger-Abteilungen (FA's) and Flieger-Abteilungen (A) (A for Artillerie) FA(A)'s were first created after the reorganisation. This is very important, so please don't mix these two abbreviations. Thank you.

Regards

Rainer

[micka]

Here are some my old posts dealing with that

I ve noticed some posts and questions lately so i am writing down my findings about KeK formations. I hope i did it right , any comments are welcome
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here i go again
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[micka]

gd what a metuzalem i am-how can i quote my old posts from close threads?
or link them here?
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