KagOHL 4/22 loss on 23 Apr 1917

[Immo_Frese]

Touché Rick

It was my sloppy fingerwork on my keybord. Unfortunately "d" is right besides "S" Great effect in this case, hehehe. Should have controlled that

And yes, a service record for v. Busse would be great!



Immo

[Soderbaum]

Hi again

It seems that my 20 Year old information was more or less useless...

However, I have also Oblt Kohze as joining in from KG 4/22 and that he also possible took the later Ace Lt dR Georg Schlenker with him from that unit....!


Gunnar

[Rick]

Ltn. Joachim von Busse, pilot:

Flg.Sch. Gotha Mar15 - May15
FEA 3 May15 - Jun15
FFA 12 Jun15 - KG 4/22
KG 4/22 - 1Sep16
Jasta 3 1Sep16 - 10Oct16
AFP 10 10Oct16 - AFP 6
AFP 6 -20May17
Jasta 3 Stv. C.O. 20May17 - 2Jun17 (Kohze was on leave)
Jasta 3 20May17 - 1Dec17
Jasta 20 Stv. C.O. 1Dec17 - 15Dec17
Jasta 20 C.O. 15Dec17 - 1Aug18 WIA,lt.
Jasta 20 C.O. 1Aug18 - 9Aug18 WIA,sv.
Hospital 9Aug18 - 26Aug18
Leave 26Aug18 - 30Sep18
Jasta 20 C.O. 30Sep18 - EOW

A little sloppy, but that's best I can do.

It would seem that KG 4/22 gave up almost all its officer pilots to Jasta 3. Kohze, Schlenker, Mohr, von Busse, and possibly some others. R.

[Rick]

Oh man, I went to so much trouble to put in the proper spacing, only to have the Forum condense it all. That makes the from/to dates a little hard to decipher. Watch the dashes (-). Clearly I will need to think of a better way to types thse things in the future!! h34r: R.

[Immo_Frese]

Thank you very, very much Rick! Great help as always. I appreciate your great knowledge!

Immo

[Soderbaum]

Hi again

The original question remain, what type of aircraft was KG 4/22 flying when the four men was lost...?

I dont knew much about aircraft, but a rough guess from me is an AEG GIV...?


Gunnar

[Immo_Frese]

Gunnar, yes, I have thought about an A.E.G. G.IV too. The question remains, if the A.E.G. G.IV was the only "big bomber" with KagOHL 4 in April 1917. Do you know if KG 4 was also equipped with Gothas or Friedrichshafen during spring 1917?

Immo

[Soderbaum]

Tricky question Immo

I am certainly no aircraft man, and where are all people who knew anything about this subject...?

However, as Rammjäger said a couple of Years ago: The basic book about German bomber units is still to be written...!!

Why did not "Bomber" Keller, Siegert or someone other important fellow took the responsible to do that work..?...it is a bit sad...

However, personally I believe that both the AEG and the Friedrichshafen were better bombers than the Gotha, mostly because the Gotha was a killer regarding starting and landing accidents despite it perhaps could take more damage in combat..

The "screwed" focus on Gothas is probably due the English literature, who seems to believe that most bombing were against British homeland...

I think, but dont knew, that KG 4 mostly received AEG bombers in the beginning of 1917 and perhaps later some Friedrichshafen..

just some opinions

Gunnar

[Immo_Frese]

Originally posted by Soderbaum@Jan 27 2004, 10:57 AM
[b] However, as Rammjäger said a couple of Years ago: The basic book about German bomber units is still to be written...!!

Why did not "Bomber" Keller, Siegert or someone other important fellow took the responsible to do that work..?...it is a bit sad...

Yes, it's a tragedy, that almost all the atraction was focused on the Jastas...and what is even worse is, that the same thing happened again after WW2

Immo

[Joerg]

Hi all,

I only like to add that Hauptmann Kohze was leader of KG 4/22. Jasta 3 was formed "in field" by him so that a lot of its staff including the leader became Jasta 3 members.

Jörg