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Old 19 December 2003, 09:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A little while back there was a discussion of what pilots flew in both World War 1 and World War 2. I recieved this from another group today and thought you might be interested.

"Only aces & only those who flew combat missions in both WW1 and WW2

Great Britain:
Sydney Carlin
William S. Fielding-Johnson
Harry K. Goode (maybe only non-combat flying in WW2)
Duncan Grinnel-Milne
John E. Gurdon
Alan D.Light
Alexander A.N.D. Pentland
William E. Staton
Stanley F. Vincent

USA (in WW1 - RAF):
Eugene S. Coler
Frank L. Hale

Germany
Ernst Bormann
Harry von Buelow-Bothkamp
Karl Christ
Otto Walter Hoehne
Gerhard Hubrich
Alfred Lindenberger
Erich Mix
Theodor Osterkamp
Theodor Quandt
Karl Waldemar Ritscherle
Viktor Schobinger
Karl Treiber
Hasso von Wedel

France:
Marius Ambrogi
Maurice Arnoux
Arthur Coadou
Marcel Dhome
Andre Dubonnet
Jean Fraissinet
Marcel Hugues
Claude Haegelen
Louis Risacher

Russia (in WW2 - Holland)
Ivan Smirnov"
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Old 19 December 2003, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My reply :

"I don't know of many, but you left out Sgt Lionel Alexander Pierre de Marmier. A french pilot in SPA 112 he shot down six aircraft in the first war. He added another 2 or 3 victories against the Germans while flying Caudron R 714's with Polish pilots in GC 1/145 "Varsovie" in June 1940.

Maréchal-des-Logis Pierre Desiré Augustin Ducornet was awarded his first kill with SPA 93 on 29 May 1918 and claimed his seventh on 29 September. During World War 2 he served on the staff of GC 21, and subsequently worked with the resistance. He retired from the Armée de l'Air as a colonel in May 1955.

(From Spad X!!/XIII Aces of World War I )"
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Old 20 December 2003, 12:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 20 December 2003, 12:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"Jerry" Pentlands combat mission were not sanctioned though, he and Binnie decided off their own bat to attack the sons of Nippon in their unique way. To include Pentland one would have to include all of the old Aces who took to the skies in WW2.

Of the Non Aces Sidney Cotton would have to be the most adventurous of them all, with his private photographic flights early in the war.

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Didn't Harvey Weir-Cook fly combat in WWII?
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Oblt. Friedrich Vollbracht 4v. (2+2) and Oberst. Alexander von Winterfeldt 13 v. (4+9) are missing from the German list.
 
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Hi Phil

Do you happened to knew the dates for Winterfeldts victories during WWI..?



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Old 22 December 2003, 02:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Couldn't have asked it better myself You beat me to it by about 30 seconds R.
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Old 22 December 2003, 11:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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[b]Oblt. Friedrich Vollbracht 4v. (2+2) and Oberst. Alexander von Winterfeldt 13 v. (4+9) are missing from the German list.
Ok, except Vollbracht isn't an ace in either war, nor is he an ace at ALL when both scores are added. The thread is "Aces of both wars."

Just an FYI.
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Old 23 December 2003, 12:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Bishop please read the first sentence of the thread "A little while back there was a discussion of what pilots flew in both World War 1 and World War 2..."
The dats about von Winterfeldt during WWI are missing. The late Ernst Obermeier ( a reliable source) claimed that Alexander scored 4 kills in 1918. It is possible that von Winterfeldt served as a two-seater pilot during the Great War.
Other sources stated he served with Jasta 20 !
 
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