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21 April 2004, 08:45 AM
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Someone here was able to provide the following for me last year.
An official compiled database of Canadian Flyers of the First World War reports that Walter B. Kellogg was born 10 April 1894. He gave his town of origin as Toronto, Ontario. He joined the Royal Flying Corps from the Curtiss Flying School at Toronto on 10 June 1916. From 4 October 1916, he served with 23 Squadron, then flying FE2bs. (They converted to Spads early in 1917.) He was wounded on 24 December 1916. On 17 June 1917, he joined 56 Training School. On 7 July 1917, he joined 19 Squadron; a Spad squadron. He was wounded and made Prisoner of War on 31 July 1917.
I was wondering now, however, if anyone could help fill in some more gaps. For instance, one will note that while flying with No.23 Squadron, he was wounded on 24.12.16. Therefore, how was he wounded? Which German Armee and associated Flight Group(s) (Jasta, Kest, or other, whichever) was in this sector. The same for No.19 Squadron in the summer of 1917 when he was WiA and POW....
...and if he was shot down, by whom?
Thanks.
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24 April 2004, 08:45 AM
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Hi Alan
For the WIA within 23 sq RFC, TSTB gives the date 26 Dec 1916 when Kellog was piloting FE2b 7712 but this source dont mention any WIA for him..!?
You dont give any location for 23 sq RFC but I think they were fighting in the northern part of Somme in late 1916, and with that was against 1 German Army...
I also think that Kellog was shot down by Vfw Pollmar from Flakzug 185 as his first confirmed victory. time 16:20 at Zonnebeke within German lines but however in No Man lands area...
Gunnar
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25 April 2004, 05:30 AM
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Gunnar,
Thank you. I am trying to flesh this out for a co-worker of mine who is Kellogg's grandson.
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25 April 2004, 05:32 AM
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Gunnar,
One more thing if I could, what is TSTB?
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25 April 2004, 01:33 PM
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Alan,
I have two combat reports for a 2nd Lt. W B Kellogg of 19 Squadron. The first is dated July 21, 1917 at 1950 hours, for an indecisive combat with an "Albatros Nieuport single seater tractor" at Quiery. He was flying SPAD 7.C1 B1660; the report is at the PRO in Air 1/1220/.../19Sqn, frame 149 on the microfilm copy. The second report is for a decisive combat, an out-of-control two seater, on July 27, at 1945 hours, at Pilkem. He was flying SPAD 7.C1 B3566; the report is frame 162 of the above microfilm.
I would assume this is your Walter B Kellogg. Do you have his middle name? It will save me having to look him up in Air 76 on some future trip to the PRO.
Frank.
Gunnar gives the definiation of TSTB below. I would note that it restricts itself to combat casualties, and appears fairly complete on personnel and aircraft -- but again, combat only. No accidents. The book by Chris Hobson Airmen Died in the Great War, gives all deaths, from whatever cause, with the aircraft serial.
Frank.
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25 April 2004, 10:44 PM
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Oops..!
TSTB is the book The Sky Their Battlefield by Trevor Henshaw, which is a rather complete book of British losses during the War...
Gunnar
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26 April 2004, 05:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Frank_Olynyk@Apr 25 2004, 03:33 PM
[b] Alan,
I have two combat reports for a 2nd Lt. W B Kellogg of 19 Squadron. The first is dated July 21, 1917 at 1950 hours, for an indecisive combat with an "Albatros Nieuport single seater tractor" at Quiery. He was flying SPAD 7.C1 B1660; the report is at the PRO in Air 1/1220/.../19Sqn, frame 149 on the microfilm copy. The second report is for a decisive combat, an out-of-control two seater, on July 27, at 1945 hours, at Pilkem. He was flying SPAD 7.C1 B3566; the report is frame 162 of the above microfilm.
I would assume this is your Walter B Kellogg. Do you have his middle name? It will save me having to look him up in Air 76 on some future trip to the PRO.
Frank.
Gunnar gives the definiation of TSTB below. I would note that it restricts itself to combat casualties, and appears fairly complete on personnel and aircraft -- but again, combat only. No accidents. The book by Chris Hobson Airmen Died in the Great War, gives all deaths, from whatever cause, with the aircraft serial.
Frank.
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Frank, thanks! According to his grandson it is Walter Blaine Kellogg.
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26 April 2004, 09:34 AM
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Alan,
Thanks for the middle name. Every little bit helps.
Frank.
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