Who killed the Red Baron?

20 July 2004, 06:52 AM

I heard that the Red Baron was shot and killed through the side by a british foot soldier with an Enfield.

pmirl · 20 July 2004, 09:36 AM

To save you from being bombarded by numerous posts as this has been gone over so many times that people have worn out keyboards, the only person who knows how Richthofen was killed is God.

Some say by an unknown Australian soldier (not British) with a rifle, some say by an Australian machine gunner, some say by Brown and his Sopwith Camel, and some say by Snoopy and his Doghouse.

There is no solid evidence to point to one specific person as being the person who actually shot him down.

Kind of like Bigfoot and Nessie, it is one of the great mysteries of life!

Paul

Shooter · 20 July 2004, 10:23 AM

And to avoid the fire mission that would ordinarily ensue, the "unknown" Australian soldier was, I believe, Cedric Popkin. And many, many people here and elsewhere will tell you how the empirical evidence abounds to prove his case.

Captain

Arthur Roy Brown, a Canadian driver of some achievement, is generally given credit for the victory--all claims to the contrary notwithstanding. And if it ain't so, it should be, 'cause it's a great story....

Shooter sends

Alan · 20 July 2004, 10:43 AM

...but WHATEVER you do, don't ever credit

Lothar von Richthofen for shooting down

Albert Ball.

B)

.....the advice given here is serious, sound advice and is truly meant to help....

Barrett · 20 July 2004, 11:14 AM

That's right...it was Bishop. But he couldn't identify the locale when he returned to base.

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Shooter · 20 July 2004, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alan@Jul 20 2004, 12:43 PM
...but WHATEVER you do, don't ever credit

Lothar von Richthofen for shooting down

Albert Ball.

.....the advice given here is serious, sound advice and is truly meant to help....

Not even Lothar claimed that.

Shooter send

Alan · 20 July 2004, 11:37 AM

You're right. Absolutely right. But I never read where he denied it either. I bet they told him to keep quiet. In a polite fashion.

Soderbaum · 20 July 2004, 11:57 AM

Hi Sopwith Camel

As you see by the short responses, many people on this Forum have a too low knowledge..

Quote:

QUOTE (Alan @ Jul 20 2004, 12:43 PM)
...but WHATEVER you do, don't ever credit

Lothar von Richthofen for shooting down

Albert Ball.

.....the advice given here is serious, sound advice and is truly meant to help....

Not even Lothar claimed that.

The fact is that LvR identified the pilot as Capt Ball in his victory report...!!

B)
Gunnar

Barker · 20 July 2004, 01:16 PM

If one of us knocks down the milk bottles, do we get to keep the dolly?

Shooter · 20 July 2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soderbaum@Jul 20 2004, 01:57 PM
[b] Hi Sopwith Camel

As you see by the short responses, many people on this Forum have a too low knowledge..

Quote:

QUOTE (Alan @ Jul 20 2004, 12:43 PM)
...but WHATEVER you do, don't ever credit

Lothar von Richthofen for shooting down

Albert Ball.

.....the advice given here is serious, sound advice and is truly meant to help....*

Not even Lothar claimed that.

The fact is that LvR identified the pilot as Capt Ball in his victory report...!!

B)
Gunnar

That is contrary to my admittedly limited information, Gunnar. Since any one can say anything, to prove your condescending point, perhaps you would be so kind as to provide a downloaded copy of that report.

It is not that I doubt you. You probably are correct, since you may have sources that I do not. So, I can be wrong. Indeed, I have been corrected many times out here and I come to expect it. But when you want to act that superior, you should be willing to prove it. The original document will do amply. Ordinarily I would be prepared to accept a book or a magazine article, but in this case, nothing less than that combat report will convince me. Otherwise, what we have here is a difference of opinion. And you know how common they are.

I await your next remark.

Shooter sends